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Previous daf Avodah Zarah 60
1) HOW MUCH IS FORBIDDEN BY A NOCHRI'S TOUCH
(a) The spigot came off a barrel of wine; a Nochri ran and
stuck his hand there to prevent the wine from spilling
(b) Version #1 (Rav Papa): The wine at the level of his hand
(where the was) is forbidden (Rashi - to drink; Tosfos -
to benefit from it, all the wine is forbidden to drink),
the rest is permitted.
(c) Version #2 (Rav Papa): The wine at or above the level of
the spigot is forbidden (because the Nochri kept it from
spilling out), the rest is permitted.
(d) (Rav Yemar) Rav Papa's law is according to R. Yehudah, it
is not like Chachamim.
1. (Mishnah): If a barrel was punctured at the top,
bottom or side and a Tvul Yom (one who immersed
today, he will be fully Tahor at nightfall) touched
Terumah inside, all of it is Tamei;
(e) (Rav Papa): If a Nochri poured wine from a bottle into a
vessel held by a Yisrael, it is forbidden to benefit from
the wine he poured;
2. R. Yehudah says, if it was punctured at the top or
bottom, it is all Tamei;
i. If the side was punctured, what the Tvul Yom
touched is Tamei, the rest is Tahor.
1. If a Yisrael poured wine from a bottle into a vessel
held by a Nochri, it is permitted;
(f) (Rav Papa): If a Nochri carried a sealed pouch of wine
and a Yisrael saw that he did not reach inside:
2. If the Nochri shook the vessel, it is forbidden (to
benefit from the wine, lest he touched it;
alternatively, one may not drink the wine, the
Nochri's Ko'ach moved it).
1. If the pouch is full, the wine is permitted (the
wine cannot shake inside); if it is not full, the
wine is forbidden, perhaps he shook it.
(g) (Rav Ashi): If he carried a sealed pouch, whether or not
it is full, the wine is permitted.
2. If he carried an open flask of wine (and a Yisrael
i. If the flask is full, the wine is forbidden
(perhaps the wine splashed onto his finger on
top of the flask;
ii. If it is not full, the wine is permitted (we
know that he did not touch it; he would not
shake it, lest it spill).
(h) Question: What is the reason?
(i) Answer: It is not normal to Menasech wine while carrying
(j) (Rav Papi): In a Ma'atzarta (a Gas in which grapes are
not stomped, they are pressed solely by a beam), if a
Nochri put the beam on them, the wine is permitted;
(k) (Rav Ashi): The wine is forbidden.
(l) Version #1: All agree that if the Nochri's Ko'ach caused
the pressing, it is forbidden;
1. They argue about Ko'ach of his Ko'ach (he gave
impetus to something which caused the pressing).
(m) Version #2: All agree that Ko'ach of his Ko'ach does not
1. They argue about his Ko'ach.
(n) A case occurred with Ko'ach of his Ko'ach; R. Yakov of
Nehar Pekod forbade it.
(o) A barrel full of wine cracked lengthwise (from top to
bottom), a Nochri ran and held the barrel together so it
would not split. Rafram bar Papa permitted selling the
wine to Nochrim.
2) WHEN ARE WE CONCERNED FOR "NISUCH?"
1. Had the barrel cracked widthwise (across the
middle), it would be permitted to drink the wine.
(p) A Nochri was found in a Ma'atzarta (the wine had already
2. Question: What is the reason?
3. Answer: (Above, the barrel began splitting, the
Nochri clamped the sides together, slightly shaking
the wine). Here, the barrel would not have come
apart (just wine would have seeped out), if a Nochri
pressed down, he is merely like a weight on top.
(q) Rav Ashi: If the Gas is Tofe'ach Lehatfi'ach (wet enough
to enable something that touches it to wet something
else), it must be rinsed and dried;
1. If the Gas is only Tofe'ach (wet enough to wet
something that touches it), it suffices to rinse it.
(a) (Mishnah): If a Nochri was found by Reuven's pit of wine:
1. If Reuven owes him money, the wine is forbidden (the
Nochri feels free to Menasech, he can always keep
the wine to pay the debt).
(b) In the following cases, the wine may be sold:
2. If Reuven does not owe him money, the wine is
1. A Nochri fell into a pit of wine and came up;
(c) A case occurred, a Nochri angrily threw a barrel into the
pit - Chachamim permitted the wine in the pit.
2. A Nochri measured the wine by inserting a rod;
3. A Nochri chased a wasp from the wine with a rod;
4. A Nochri leveled off the foam on top of the wine.
5. Each of these cases actually occurred, Chachamim
permitted selling the wine.
6. R. Shimon says, it is permitted (to drink).
(d) (Gemara - Shmuel): The wine is forbidden only if it was
collateral for Reuven's debt.
(e) Support (Rav Ashi - Mishnah): If Reuven processed the
wine of a Nochri (Tony) (to sell it to Yisraelim) and it
was left in Tony's house, and Tony wrote 'I already
received the money for it (from you)', the wine is
1. A case occurred in Beis Shan, Tony did not let
Reuven take it before paying; Chachamim forbade the
(f) (Mishnah): A Nochri fell into a pit of wine and came up.
2. Inference: If Tony would let Reuven take it before
paying, it would be permitted, even though Reuven
owes him for it (since the wine is not collateral
for the debt).
(g) (Rav Papa): This is only if he came up dead, but if he
came up alive, it is forbidden.
(h) Question: What is the reason?
(i) Answer (Rav Papa): On the way up, he thanks his idolatry
for saving him (and is Menasech) like on his festival.
(j) (Mishnah): A Nochri measured the wine with a rod...all of
these cases occurred, Chachamim said that the wine must
be sold; R. Shimon permits it.
(k) (Rav Ada bar Ahavah): R. Shimon is consistent - when he
permits, he permits drinking the wine; when he forbids,
he forbids all benefit.
(l) (Rav Chisda): The Halachah follows R. Shimon.
(m) The Halachah does not follow R. Shimon.
(n) (Mishnah): A case occurred, a Nochri angrily threw a
barrel into the pit, Chachamim permitted it.
(o) (Rav Ashi): If a Zav would Metamei a person through a
certain action (e.g. he touched it directly or
indirectly), if a Nochri did the same to wine, it becomes
1. If a Zav would not Metamei through the action, if a
Nochri did the same to wine, it is not Yayin Nesech.
(p) Question (Rav Huna - Mishnah): A case occurred, a Nochri
angrily threw a barrel into a pit, Chachamim permitted
the wine in the pit.
1. Inference: Had he thrown it without anger, the wine
would be forbidden (even though a Zav does not
Metamei a person by throwing something at him)!
(q) Version #1 (Rashi) Answer: He threw it into the pit from
very close (but from far away, it is always permitted).
(r) Version #2 (Tosfos) Answer: He was holding it the entire
time, even when it hit the wine.