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Bava Basra 20
BAVA BASRA 20-25 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence,
N.Y., out of love for the Torah and for those who study it.
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1) BARRIERS THAT SHIELD FROM TUM'AH (cont.)
(a) Question: How is the barrel positioned?
1. Suggestion: If the opening faces out (away from the
Tum'ah) - the barrel itself blocks Tum'ah!
i. Earthenware vessels only acquire Tum'ah from
their interiors!
(b) Answer #1: Rather, the opening faces the Tum'ah.
(c) Answer #2: Really, we can even say that it faces out; the
case is, the barrel is made of metal.
(d) Question (Beraisa): The following block Tum'ah: grass
that was detached and placed in a window, or itself grew
there; rags smaller than three fingers by three fingers;
a dangling limb or flesh of an animal; a bird that rested
there; a Nochri that sat there, an eighth-month (i.e.
stillborn) baby; salt; earthenware vessels; or a Sefer
Torah;
1. The following do not block Tum'ah: Snow, hail, ice,
frost, and water.
2. Summation of question: Grass is fit for an animal,
and it blocks Tum'ah!
(e) Answer: The grass referred to is poisonous.
(f) Question: The grass blocks, even if it grew by itself -
but it is going to be cut, since it damages the wall!
(g) Answer #1 (Rabah): The Beraisa speaks of the wall of a
ruin (so the grass is not going to be cut).
(h) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): It can even be a wall of an
inhabited building - the grass is three Tefachim away
(and does not harm the wall), the top bends into the
window.
(i) Question: Why do rags block - they are fitting to patch
torn clothing!
(j) Answer: The material is too thick to be used for a patch.
1. Question: They are fitting for a bloodletter (to
clean the wound)!
2. Answer: They are of sackcloth, which would scratch
the skin.
3. Objection: If so, why did the Beraisa say, they are
not three fingers by three fingers - sackcloth is
not Tamei unless it is four Tefachim by four
Tefachim!
4. Answer: It is not really sackcloth, just scratchy as
sackcloth.
(k) Question: A dangling limb or flesh of an animal - the
animal may go away!
(l) Answer: The case is, it is tied down.
1. Question: Someone may come and slaughter it!
2. Answer: It is a non-Kosher animal.
3. Question: The owner might sell it to a Nochri!
4. Answer: It is a weak animal.
5. Question: He may cut it up to feed it to dogs!
6. Answer: That would cause needless pain to a living
animal - he would not do this.
(m) Question: A bird that rested there - it may fly away!
(n) Answer: The case is, it is tied down.
1. Question: Someone may come and slaughter it!
2. Answer: It is a non-Kosher bird.
3. Question: The owner might sell it to a Nochri!
4. Answer: It is a Kalanisa (a very weak bird).
5. Question: He may give it to a child to play with!
6. Answer: He would not, for it scratches.
7. Objection A Kalanisa does not scratch!
8. Answer: It is a different species; it is weak, as a
Kalanisa.
(o) Question: A Nochri that sat in the window - he will walk
away!
(p) Answer: He is tied down.
1. Question: A friend will untie him!
2. Answer #1: He is a leper.
3. Objection: Another leper will untie him!
4. Answer #2: Rather, he is a prisoner of the king.
2) OTHERS SHIELDS FROM TUM'AH
(a) Question: An eighth-month baby - his mother will take
him!
(b) Answer: The baby blocks Tum'ah on Shabbos.
1. (Beraisa): An eighth-month baby is as a stone; he
may not be moved on Shabbos. However, his mother may
bend over to nurse him, because of the danger.
(c) Question: Salt is fitting to use!
(d) Answer: It is bitter salt.
1. Question: It is fitting for tanning!
2. Answer: There are thorns in it.
3. Question: If so, it harms the wall - he will remove
it!
4. Answer: It is resting on earthenware (and does not
harm the wall).
5. Question: The earthenware itself should block
Tum'ah!
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6. Answer: It is too small to block the Tum'ah.
i. (Mishnah): One is liable for carrying
earthenware in a public domain on Shabbos if it
is big enough to put between bars in a window.
(Rashi - anything smaller than this has no
importance, it does not block Tum'ah; Tosfos -
since it has no use, he will not take it, so
the salt blocks the Tum'ah).
(e) Question: An earthenware vessel is fitting to use!
(f) Answer: It is dirty.
1. Question: It is fitting for a bloodletter!
2. It has a hole in it.
(g) Question: A Sefer Torah is fitting to read from!
(h) Answer: The case is, it is worn out.
1. Question: It must be buried!
2. Answer: It will be permanently left in the window.
(i) (Rav): We may make a divider from anything except salt
(lest it scatter) and fat (lest it melt).
(j) (Shmuel): Even salt may be used.
(k) Resolution #1: (Rav Papa): They don't argue - Sedomis
salt may be used, it is hard and does not scatter;
(regular) salt may not be used.
(l) Resolution #2: Both can speak of (regular) salt,
according to Rabah.
1. (Rabah): A person may place the Korah (a beam to
permit carrying in an alleyway) on two piles of salt
(the weight stops the salt from scattering).
2. Rav speaks when there is no beam, Shmuel speaks when
there is a beam.
3) DISTANCING TO PREVENT CAUSING DAMAGE
(a) (Mishnah): A millstone - the lower stone must be
distanced three Tefachim, the upper stone will be four
Tefachim away.
(b) Question: What is the reason?
(c) Answer #1: It makes the ground shake.
(d) Objection (Beraisa): A millstone driven by a donkey - the
lower stone must be distanced three Tefachim, the upper
stone four Tefachim.
1. A millstone driven by a donkey does not make the
ground shake!
(e) Answer #2: Rather, on account of the noise.
(f) (Mishnah): An oven - the bottom must be distanced three
Tefachim, the top will be four Tefachim away.
(g) Inference (Abaye): We infer that the bottom of an oven
should extend a Tefach past the top (in each direction).
1. This is relevant to commerce (if one sold an oven
not like this, it is a mistaken sale).
4) THINGS THAT HARM AN UPPER STORY
(a) (Mishnah): A person may not set up an oven in his house
unless there are 4 Amos above it; one may not set up an
oven in an upper story unless there are 3 Tefachim of
plaster below it;
1. For a Kirah (an oven that does not get as hot), one
Tefach suffices.
(b) If the oven caused damage, he must pay for it;
(c) R. Shimon says, if he kept the proper distance, he is
exempt.
(d) (Gemara) Question (Beraisa): A Tanur must have four
Tefachim of plaster underneath, a Kirah three Tefachim.
(e) Answer (Abaye): The Beraisa speaks of baker's ovens - a
baker's Kirah is as hot as a standard Tanur.
(f) (Mishnah): One may not open a store...
(g) (Beraisa): If the pen preceded the storehouse, it is
permitted.
(h) Questions (Abaye): If someone cleaned his roof (in order
to store food there), but did not yet put food there, is
this already considered a storehouse?
1. What if he opened new windows in his Aliyah (in
order to store food there)? What if he built an
Aliyah (to be a storehouse)?
(i) These questions are not resolved.
(j) Question (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua): If he put in
dates and pomegranates, is this considered a storehouse
(or only if he puts in grain, wine or oil)?
(k) This question is not resolved.
(l) (Mishnah): In truth, they permitted regarding wine...
(m) (Beraisa): They permitted (a baker's or dyer's store
under) wine, because the smoke improves the wine, but not
a pen, for the stench spoils the wine.
(n) (Rav Yosef): Even smoke of a candle harms wine of Bavel.
(o) (Rav Sheshes): (The heat and stench of) fodder harms wine
just like a pen.
5) MAKING NOISE IN A CHATZER
(a) (Mishnah): If Reuven set up a store in a Chatzer, others
can stop him because the noise disturbs their sleep;
1. Rather, Reuven can make vessels in the Chatzer and
sell them in the market.
2. If their sleep is disturbed by the noise of his
hammer, grinder or children (coming to the store)
they cannot complain.
(b) Question: What is the difference between the clauses?
(c) Answer #1 (Abaye): The end of the Mishnah says that
people of another Chatzer cannot complain about the
noise.
(d) Objection: (Rava): If so, it should say so explicitly!
(e) Answer #2 (Rava): The end of the Mishnah speaks of one
who teaches children Torah, after the enactment of
Yehoshua ben Gamla.
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