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Bava Basra 151
BAVA BASRA 151 - Dedicated by Dr. and Mrs. Moshe & Rivka Snow of
Queens, N.Y., in memory of Rabbis Israel Snow and Baruch Mayer
Rabinowitz -- both of whose Yahrzeits are 8 Elul.
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1) WHAT IS CALLED "PROPERTY?"
(a) Animals are called 'property';
1. (Mishnah): If Reuven was Makdish his property and it
included animals fitting for sacrifices, males are
Olah offerings, females are sold to people who want
to bring Shelamim,
(b) Birds are called 'property';
1. (Mishnah): If Reuven was Makdish his property and it
included things fitting for the Altar: wine, oil and
birds...
(c) Tefilin are called 'property';
1. (Mishnah): If Reuven was Makdish his property, he
redeems them for their value.
(d) Question: Is a Sefer Torah called 'property'?
1. Since it is forbidden to sell it, it is not called
'property';
2. Or, since one may sell it to learn Torah or marry a
wife, it is called 'property'?
(e) This question is unsettled.
2) RETRACTING FROM A GIFT
(a) Rav Zutra bar Tuvya's mother wrote her property to him
before marrying Rav Zevid (so Rav Zevid would not get her
property); he divorced her.
1. Rav Bivi bar Abaye: She gave him the property
because she wanted to get married, and she did!
2. Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua: Even according to the
opinion that a Mavrachas document acquires, that is
only when she did not reveal why she gives the
property;
i. Here, she said it was because she wanted to
marry; now that she is divorced, all agree that
she gets back the property.
(b) Rami bar Chama's mother wrote her property to him at
night, and to Rav Ukva bar Chama the next morning.
(Later, she died.) Rav Sheshes established the property
by Rami.
1. Rav Ukva bar Chama went to Rav Nachman, he
established the property by Rav Ukva.
2. Rav Sheshes (to Rav Nachman): Why did you do that?
i. You cannot say, because she retracted - she
died!
3. Rav Nachman: Shmuel taught, anyone who could retract
if he recovered, he can retract even if he did not
recover (by writing to Rav Ukva, this shows that she
retracted from giving to Rami).
4. Rav Sheshes: Shmuel said so regarding retracting to
take back the property for himself, did he say so to
give it to someone else?!
5. Rav Nachman: Yes, he explicitly said 'He may retract
to take back the property for himself or to give to
someone else'.
(c) Rav Amram Chasida's mother had loan documents; when she
died, she said 'They are to my son Amram'.
1. Amram's brothers: He did not do Meshichah!
2. Rav Nachman: What a dying man says is like a
document that was given (Meshichah is not needed).
(d) Rav Tuvi bar Rav Masnah's sister wrote her property to
Rav Tuvi in the morning; his brother Rav Achdevoy came to
her that afternoon, crying.
1. Rav Achdevoy: People will say that he is a Chacham,
and I am not!
2. She wrote the property to him; he came in front of
Rav Nachman.
3. Rav Nachman: Shmuel taught, anyone who could retract
if he recovered, he can retract even if he did not
recover (Rav Achdevoy gets the property).
(e) Rav Dimi bar Yosef's sister had a small orchard; whenever
she got sick, she would give it to him; when she
recovered, she would retract.
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1. Once, she got sick and called him to come to acquire
it; he sent a message 'I am not interested'. She
sent to him 'Come and acquire it however you want
(i.e. in a way that will not allow me to retract).'
2. He left part for her, and madea Kinyan on the rest.
She recovered and retracted, and came in front of
Rav Nachman; he called Rav Dimi to come.
3. Rav Dimi saw no need to come - since she kept part,
it was like a healthy person's gift, and he
acquired!
4. Rav Nachman: If you do not come, I will put you in
Cherem!
i. When she had heard that Rav Dimi did not want
to come, she said 'Woe, I will die without
seeing him'.
5. Rav Nachman: This shows that the gift was because
she expected to die - therefore, she may retract.
3) WHEN IS A KINYAN REQUIRED?
(a) (Rabanan citing Rav Nachman): A partial Matnas Shechiv
me'Ra (he kept some property) is like a gift of a healthy
person and like a gift of a dying man:
1. It is like a gift of a healthy person - if the giver
recovers, he cannot retract;
2. It is like a gift of a dying man - it does not
requirea Kinyan.
(b) (Rava citing Rav Nachman): No, it is like a gift of a
healthy person, it needsa Kinyan.
(c) Question (Rava - Mishnah): A dying man gave a gift, and
kept some property - if he recovers, he cannot retract.
1. Suggestion: This is when no Kinyan was made.
(d) Answer: No,a Kinyan was made.
(e) Question (Rava - end of the Mishnah): If he did not keep
any property, if he recovers, he can retract.
1. Ifa Kinyan was made, why can he retract?
(f) Answer (Rav Nachman citing Shmuel): If a dying man gave
all his property to others, even if they acquired from
him, if he recovers, he can retract;
1. Surely, he only gave because he expected to die.
(g) Question (Rav Mesharshiya - Mishnah): A case occurred,
the mother of Benei Rochel was sick, she said 'Give my
clasp to my daughter, it is worth 1200 Zuz'; the mother
died, and Chachamim fulfilled her words.
(h) Answer (Rava): There, she only gave because she expected
to die.
(i) Question (Ravina - Mishnah): If Reuven said 'Give this
Get to my wife and this Get of freedom to my slave', and
he died, we do not give the Get posthumously;
1. If he said 'Give 100 Zuz to Ploni', and he died, we
give it posthumously.
2. Question: Why can't we answer,a Kinyan was made?
3. Answer: Presumably, the second clause is like the
first; just like no one acquired the Get for her, no
one acquired the money for Ploni.
(j) Answer (Rava): There, Reuven only gave because he
expected to die.
(k) (Rav Huna brei d'Rav Yehoshua): Normally, one who only
gives because he expects to die must make a Kinyan;
1. These Beraisos which do not require a Kinyan are
when the giver gave away all his property, then it
is like a Matnas Shechiv me'Ra.
(l) The Halachah is: a partial Matnas Shechiv me'Ra requires
a Kinyan, even if he died;
1. One who only gave because he expected to die does
not require a Kinyan, on condition that the giver
died.
2. If he recovered, he can retract, even though a
Kinyan was made.
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