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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
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Beitzah 30

***** PEREK HAMEIVI *****

1) MISHNAH: PROPER CONDUCT ON YOMTOV (QUANTITY CARRYING AND MUKTZAH)

(a) One may not transport jars of wine by putting them all into a basket or a box.
(b) Rather, one may carry a few jars in the prescribed fashion.
(c) One may not transport a box of straw slung over one's shoulder.
(d) He may transport it as described.
(e) One begins taking fuel from piles of straw rather than from the wood in storage (in the Muktzeh).
2) ALTERING (SHINUI) FOR YOMTOV
(a) (Beraisa) When change is not possible, articles may be transported in the usual manner.
(b) Rava instituted various alterations in the methods of transporting goods on YomTov (as listed), to the extent that alteration is possible without an increase in the labor involved.
(c) Question (R. Chanan b. Rava): How do we allow women to draw and subsequently carry, the water in the regular jars, without making a Shinui?
(d) Answer (R. Ashi): Each suggested alteration has drawbacks (as listed) leaving us with no available alteration.
3) MUTAV SHEYIHU SHOGEGIN
(a) Question (Rava b.R. Chanin): Why do we overlook the violations of the Mishnah's prohibition against clapping, etc.?
(b) Answer (Abaye): The same problem should then apply to our overlooking those who sit at the opening of a Mavui, and the answer to both is Hanach Lahem...
(c) The principle of Mutav Sheyihu Shogegin does not apply to a d'Oreisa, where we must rebuke the Shogegin.
(d) The principle applies to a d'Oreisa, as well, as we see from our silence regarding Tosefes Yom haKipurim.
4) MUKTZAH
(a) (R. Kehana) The instruction in the Mishnah to begin from the straw (being stored for animals) seems to indicate that taking from long-term storage does not engender a problem of Muktzah, and must be the opinion of R. Shimon.
(b) Question: The Seifa of the Mishnah prohibits the wood in the Muktzeh, implying that the Tana is concerned for Muktzah (and must be R. Yehudah)!?
(c) Answer: Even R. Shimon would agree that this wood is Muktzah (because of Chisaron Kis since wood suited for construction would not normally be used as firewood).
(d) (Alternate rendering of R. Kehana's teaching) The prohibition of taking the wood in the Muktzeh which points to the Mishnah being R. Yehudah.
(e) Question: But the Reisha points to R. Shimon?!
(f) Answer: Even R. Yehudah would agree that this straw is not Muktzah (since it is rotten and only usable as firewood).
1. Question: But rotten straw is usable as mortar!?
2. Answer: This straw has thorns.
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5) MISHNAH: TAKING APART AN OHEL

(a) One may not undo the roof of an Ohel (such as the S'chach of an old Sukah) for firewood on YomTov.
(b) We may only take wood which is nearby.
6) THE WOOD WHICH IS NEARBY
(a) Question: The nearby (presumably lying on top of the S'chach) wood should be prohibited just as is the S'chach (Stiras Ohel)!?
(b) Answer (R. Yehudah citing Shmuel): The Mishnah is speaking of wood that is leaning against (but not attached to) the wall of the Sukah.
(c) Answer (R. Menashya) The Seifa permits (the still tied up) bundles of wood, which are on the Sukah, but are not Batel to the S'chach.
(d) Question: How could R. Shimon permit taking S'chach which was placed conditionally on the Sukah, given the prohibition of Stiras Ohel!?
(e) Answer (R. Nachman b. Yitzhok): The Beraisa speaks of a Sukah that collapsed on YomTov and thus (acc. to R. Shimon) is not Muktzah, like the oil which remains from the Shabbos candles.
(f) Question: But a person anticipates the candle going out, but surely did not anticipate the day when the Sukah will collapse!?
(g) Answer (R. Nachman b. Yitzhok): It was threatening to collapse from before YomTov.
7) THE SUKAH IS PROHIBITED ON SUKOS
(a) Question: How could a condition help, given that the Sukah is Asur b'Hana'ah all seven days (two sources)!?
(b) Answer (R. Menashia b. Rava): The reference to S'chach placed with a condition is not speaking on Sukos (when the S'chach would surely be Asur, as taught), but of a condition made before another YomTov.
(c) Question: But the Beraisa teaches that a condition *would* work to permit parts of the Sukah even on Sukos!?
(d) Answer (Abaye and Rava): A condition may only be made regarding the decorations of the Sukah.
(e) Question: Why should the Sukah be more stringent than an Esrog which *is* subject to his condition (Rav holds that it may be used on its day and eaten while R. Asi permits it on the next day)!?
(f) Answer: The Mitzvah of Esrog (unlike the Sukah) is interrupted by nighttime and thus each day is viewed as a separate Mitzvah.
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