POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) SUPPORTING A POT WITH A BLOCK AND A DOOR
(a) Question: How could one support a pot with a door!?
2) R. ELAZAR B.R. SHIMON PERMITS LEADING AN ANIMAL WITH A STICK
(b) Answer: It must be amended to mean that a door may,
similarly, not be supported by a block of wood.
(c) The Beraisa teaches that R. Shimon permits using a
block of wood for these purposes.
(a) Question: Does R. Elazar permit here in accordance with
his father's opinion (that the stick is not Muktzah)?
3) OTHER USES FOR A STICK
(b) Answer: Muktzah need not have been a factor with the
stick, even for the Tana Kama whose prohibition may owe
to its looking as if he is taking his animal to market
(a) (R. Nachman) One may not use a spit-shaped Chizra.
4) RAVA'S RULING IN ACCORDANCE WITH R. YEHUDAH
(b) (R. Sheshes) It is permitted.
(c) Their Machlokes applies to a stick which is fit for
(burning) use since it is dry, but not if it is damp.
1. R. Nachman assumes wood to be forbidden, and
permitted only for firewood;
(d) Alternately, their Machlokes applies only if it is
2. R. Sheshes that the permission to use the wood is
unrestricted (no Muktzah).
1. R. Nachman prohibits since it is not fit for use.
(e) The Halachah (according to those who maintain Muktzah-
Rashi) rules that a dry Chizra is permitted, but a wet
one is not.
2. R. Sheshes permits since it could still be added
to a large fire.
(a) (Rava) One may not use an undesignated poker on YomTov.
5) MISHNAH: MUKTZAH AND MOLID
(b) Also, a designated poker may not be burned as kindling
if it broke.
(c) Question: But Rava permitted handling the innards of
the bird (which R. Yehudah would presumably forbid
since whatever is prepared for a person, is not fit for
an animal) thus indicating that he does *not* hold of
Muktzah in accordance with R. Yehudah!?
(d) Answer: Even R. Yehudah would permit handling those
innards since he intends, even before YomTov, to cast
them to the cat (since they rot).
(a) (R. Eliezer) One may taking a splinter of wood (from
"before him" but meaning from the Chatzer- Rashi) to
pick one's teeth.
(b) One may also collect splinters of wood scattered in the
Chatzer, as they are Muchan, despite the effort
entailed in gathering them.
(c) (Rabanan) One may collect only splinters which are
before him (not out in the Chatzer) and may then only
use them for kindling, not as a toothpick.
(d) One may not produce a fire in any manner on YomTov, nor
may one heat roof-tiles to fry thereupon.
6) MUKTZAH AND TIKUN KELI
(a) (R. Yehudah) Animal food may be used freely (no Tikun
7) USING THE ABOVE DISTINCTION TO RESOLVE TWO BERAISOS
(b) Question (R. Kehana): But the Beraisa rules that one
would be Chayav for fashioning a Keli from Besamim,
presumably even from those which are fit for animals!?
1. (Beraisa) One may move Besamim for its fragrance
and one may roll it in one's hand in order to
bring out its smell.
(c) Answer (R. Yehudah): The Beraisa is prohibiting hard
wood, which is not fit for animal food.
2. One may not, however, break them to bring out
their fragrance, lest he come to break them to
fashion a toothpick (an Isur d'Oreisa).
(d) Question: How then are they able to be rolled!?
(e) Answer: The Beraisa must be amended to permit soft wood
entirely (even to break a toothpick therefrom) and to
prohibit hard wood, as above.
(a) Question: One Beraisa permits breaking the Besamim for
their fragrance and one forbids it (lest he fashion a
8) THE PERMISSION TO GATHER WOOD IN THE CHATZER
(b) Answer (R. Zeira citing R. Chisda): Soft wood is
permitted and hard wood (not fit for fodder) is not.
(c) Question (R. Acha b. Yaakov): But, based on the Mishnah
which permits breaking open a barrel haphazardly
(without intending to fashion a Keli) to obtain its
contents, it should be permitted to break the Besamim
for its fragrance (and we do not restrict him lest he
fashion a Keli with intent)!?
(d) Further Question: It was reported that R. Yehudah did
(e) Answer (for the second question): R. Eliezer (who holds
in the cited Beraisa that breaking a splinter off a
large piece of wood involves a d'Oreisa) prohibits,
while R. Yehudah rules like the Rabanan (who hold, in
the cited Beraisa, that such splintering is not Tikun
(f) Question: But the Beraisa teaches that R. Eliezer
*permits* breaking open a vessel (provided that one
does not intend to make a Keli)!?
(g) Answer (to this and to the first question above) [R.
Ashi]: That Beraisa is speaking of Mosteki, a broken
barrel whose pieces are stuck together with resin.
(a) (Rabanan) One may not gather the wood and pile it into
(b) (R. Shimon) One may even make a heap.
(c) Question: What is the basis for their argument?
(d) Answer: Whether it appears as though he is collecting
for future, post-YomTov use (Rabanan) or whether it
will be assumed that his cooking requires it (R.