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CHULIN 64 - sponsored by Dr. and Mrs. Shalom Kelman of Baltimore,
Maryland, USA. May Hashem bless them with long years filled with Torah,
Chidushei Torah, and Nachas!
1) BUYING EGGS FROM NOCHRIM
(a) (Beraisa): In any place, we may buy eggs from Nochrim; we
are not concerned that they came from a Nevelah or
2) EGGS OF "SHERATZIM"
(b) Question: Why aren't we concerned that they are from a
(c) Answer: (Shmuel's father): The case is, the Nochri said
they are from a particular Tahor species.
(d) Question: Why must he specify the species?
(e) Answer: If he would just say that they are Tahor, he
could lie without fear of being caught.
(f) Question: Why do we rely on his words - we should inspect
1. (Beraisa): Simanim (of Tahor eggs) are just like
Simanim of Tahor fish.
(g) Answer #1: The case is, the eggs are cut, we do not know
their full shape.
2. Objection: This cannot be - scales are the Siman of
3. Correction: Rather, the Simanim of Tahor bird eggs
are just like Simanim of Tahor fish eggs.
4. (Beraisa): The Simanim of Tahor eggs - one end is
round, the other end is pointed;
i. If both ends are round, or both pointed, they
ii. If the egg white is on the outside, and the
yolk is on the inside, they are Tahor; if it is
vice-versa, they are Tamei;
iii. If the white and yolk are mixed together, they
are eggs of a Sheretz.
(h) Objection: We can check the yolk and white!
(i) Answer #2 (to both questions): The case is, the yolk and
white are beaten together in a bowl.
(j) Objection: We may not buy such eggs from a Nochri!
1. (Beraisa): We may not sell eggs of a Treifah to a
Nochri, unless they are beaten in a bowl; therefore,
we may not buy beaten eggs from a Nochri (lest they
(k) Answer #3 (R. Zeira): The Simanim to distinguish Tamei
eggs from Tahor are not mid'Oraisa, so we do not rely on
1. Support: If the Simanim were mid'Oraisa, we would be
able to resolve the eight doubtful species (62B) by
inspecting their eggs!
(l) Question: Since we may not rely on the Simanim, why were
(m) Answer: If both ends are the same (round or pointed), the
yolk is outside (and the white inside), they are
1. If one end is round, the other is pointed, the yolk
is inside, we may trust the seller (even a Nochri)
if he says that they are a particular Tahor species.
i. We may not rely on the Simanim alone, for raven
eggs resemble dove eggs (and perhaps other
Tamei eggs resemble Tahor eggs.)
(a) (Beraisa): If the white and yolk are mixed together, they
are surely eggs of a Sheretz.
(b) Question: What difference does it make? Whether they are
of a Sheretz or a Tamei bird, we may not eat them!
(c) Answer #1 (Rav Ukva bar Chama): If a baby Sheretz started
forming (and died), and there was a hole in the shell,
one who touches the egg becomes Tamei.
(d) Rejection (Ravina): Perhaps they are snake eggs (which
resemble Sheretz eggs, but are Tehorim! Indeed, it is
important to know that they are *Safek* Teme'im - but the
Beraisa says that they are *surely* Sheretz eggs!)
(e) Answer #2 (Rava): If a baby started forming and one (was
warned and) ate it, he is lashed for eating a Sheretz.
(f) Question: One is lashed for eating a developing bird egg,
even if it is Tahor!
1. (Beraisa): "Every Sheretz that swarms on the ground"
- this includes chicks that did not yet open their
(g) Answer: That prohibition is only mid'Rabanan, one is not
lashed for it mid'Oraisa.
3) "TAMEI" EGGS ARE FORBIDDEN
(h) (Beraisa): Gi'ulei Beitzim (Rashi - eggs that were cooked
with (and absorbed tastes of) Tamei eggs; Tosfos - eggs
that left the bird prematurely) are permitted;
(i) One who is not particular may eat unfertilized eggs that
a hen sat on;
(j) If a drop of blood is found, the blood is discarded, the
egg is permitted.
1. (R. Yirmeyah): This is only if the blood is found on
the knot (of the egg white.)
(k) (Rav Gavihah): This law was said before Abaye, but
reversed (the law of blood found on the white and yolk);
Abaye corrected it to our version.
2. (Dostoy, father of R. Aftoriki): This is only if the
blood is found on (the knot of) the egg white; if it
is found on the yolk, the entire egg is forbidden.
i. This is because the blood spread throughout the
(a) (Chizkiyah): "*Bas* ha'Ya'anah" forbids eggs of a Tamei
1. We cannot say that only the young females are
forbidden - rather, it refers to eggs of a Tamei
(b) Question: Perhaps 'Bas ha'Ya'anah' is the name of the
bird, we may not expound it!
(c) Answer: No, the name is Ye'enim - "Ka'Yenim ba'Midbar".
(d) Question: But it says "V'Evel ki'Vnos Ya'anah"!
(e) Answer: It means, like an ostrich that mourns over its
(f) Question: "Will dwell there Benos Ya'anah".
(g) Answer: It means, like an ostrich that dwells with its
(h) Question: "Will honor Me...u'Vnos Ya'anah"!
1. This cannot mean eggs, for they cannot praise
(i) Answer: The Torah sometimes writes "ha'Ya'anah", and
sometimes "Bas ha'Ya'anah";
1. The Chumash writes "Bas ha'Ya'anah "as two words, so
it refers to two things (the eggs and the birds.)
(j) Question: Kadar La'omer (Melech Eilam) is also written as
(k) Answer: His name is written as two words, but they must
be on the same line; "Bas ha'Ya'anah" may be written on