REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Chulin 128
CHULIN 128-130 - dedicated by Mrs. Rita Grunberger of Queens, N.Y., in
loving memory of her husband, Reb Yitzchok Yakov ben Eliyahu Grunberger.
Irving Grunberger helped many people quietly in an unassuming manner and
is dearly missed by all who knew him. His Yahrzeit is 10 Sivan (which
coincides with the study of Chulin 128 this year).
(a) Rebbi Yochanan too, explains the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi
Shimon (whether the Eiver and the Basar are Muchshar via the blood of the
Shechitah) like Abaye. And he asks on Rebbi Meir from his own opinion in a
What does Rebbi Meir say about food that has separated from its
source but is still slightly attached? When is it considered attached and
when is it not?
(b) What are the ramifications of the Beraisa's ruling?
(c) How does Rebbi Yochanan reconcile the two statements of Rebbi Meir (see
(d) How do we try to reconcile Rebbi Meir's two rulings without saying
(e) We refute that suggestion however, by citing a Beraisa, where Rebbi
specifically does not differentiate between a T'vul-Yom and other Tum'os.
How does Rebbi Yashiyah explain Rebbi Yochanan, to counter the Kashya that
perhaps Rebbi does not differentiate, but Rebbi Meir does?
(a) According to Rava, both Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Shimon hold 'Yesh Yad
What is then the basis of their Machlokes, according to him?
(b) What will they hold with regard to whether a Beheimah is a Yad le'Eiver?
(c) Rav Papa maintains that both Tana'im even hold Yesh Yad le'Hechsher too.
And to explain the basis of their Machlokes, he cites a Beraisa, where Rebbi
Akiva rules that Cheilev of a Shechutah of the villagers (who are Nochrim)
does not require Hechsher, because it already became Muchshar with the
What is the significance of 'villagers' here? Why do they
differ from the townspeople in this regard?
(a) Rebbi Yehudah therefore queried Rebbi Akiva's ruling from something else
that he taught them.
What is the difference between human food and animal
food regarding Hechsher Tum'ah?
(b) So what did Rebbi Akiva say regarding Ulshin (a kind of bitter herb)
that one picked and washed in order to feed an animal, and then decided to
use as human food?
(c) So how does Rav Papa explain the Machlokes?
(d) Rebbi Akiva accepted Rebbi Yehudah's Kashya and retracted from the
earlier ruling. If Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah now holds like Rebbi
Yehudah (and Rebbi Akiva), like whom does Rebbi Meir hold?
(a) Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika establishes the Machlokes where the blood
squirted on to the limb after the Shechitah of the first Si'man, but was
wiped off before the Shechitah of the second one. What is the basis of their
(b) What will they hold with regard to 'Yad le'Hechsher'?
(c) According to Rav Ashi, they are arguing over whether it is the Shechitah
or the blood that is Machshir Lekabel Tum'ah.
If Rebbi Shimon holds that
the Shechitah is Machshir, then why is not Machshir the Eiver and the Basar
(particularly since it is effective to remove Tum'as Neveilos)?
(d) Why are the Eiver and the Basar anyway not Metamei, because the rest of
the animal serves as a Yad?
(a) Rabah established the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Shimon by
whether a Shechted animal becomes a Yad for the Eiver or not. Now he asks
whether an animal will serve as a Yad to the Eiver in its lifetime.
According to which Tana is he asking?
(b) Why might it not?
(c) Whatever grows from the ground is not subject to Tum'ah, as long as it
is still attached. What will be the Din of something that grows in an
(d) The Tana Kama in Uktzin rules that a cucumber that one planted in an
un-holed pot, which then grows until it extends beyond the walls of the pot,
is considered joined to the ground, even with regard to the rest of the
cucumber still inside the pot.
What does Rebbi Shimon say?
(e) What did Abaye ask according to Rebbi Shimon, regarding the branch of
the cucumber that protrudes outside the pot becoming a Yad?
(a) What did Chazal say about someone who prostrates himself to half a
Answers to questions
(b) What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the Pasuk in Shemini "mi'Kol ha'Ochel
Asher Ye'achel" (with regard to Isurei Hana'ah)?
(c) How will we reconcile this with the fact that Avodah-Zarah is Metamei
like a Sheretz, and according to Rebbi Akiva, even like a Nidah?
(d) Rebbi Yirmiyah asks whether the forbidden part will be considered a Yad
for the part which is still permitted. What exactly is the She'eilah, if
we are referring to transmitting Tum'ah from a Sheretz? What level of
Tum'ah will the permitted half-gourd now adopt?
(e) What is the alternative explanation of the She'eilah, assuming that the
other half ...
- ... was not Huchshar Lekabel Tum'ah?
- ... Huchshar Lekabel Tum'ah?
(a) Rebbi Yehudah in the Mishnah in Uktzin declares Tahor the branch of a
fig-tree that has broken off from the tree, but that is still joined via the
What do the Chachamim say?
(b) Rav Papa asks whether one branch becomes a Yad for the other? What does
he mean by that?
(c) What else might he mean to ask?
(a) What does the Mishnah in Nega'im learn from the Pasuk in Metzora ...
(b) What She'eilah does Rebbi Zeira ask regarding the Din of Yad in the
- ... (in connection with a corner stone in a Bayis ha'Menuga which needs to be re-placed after one week) "ve'Chiltzu es ha'Avanim"?
- ... (in connection with the demolition of the house after two or three weeks) "Ve'nasatz es ha'Bayis"?
(c) What is the outcome of all these She'eilos?
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that if the animal dies, the loose Eiver and
Basar are Metamei because of Eiver min ha'Chai, but not because of
What is the practical difference between the two?
(b) What does Rav Yehudah Amar Rav learn from the Pasuk in Shemini "ve'Chi
Yamus min ha'Beheimah"?
(c) What is Rav Yehudah Amar Rav (others cite a Beraisa) referring to when
he Darshens from the same Pasuk 'Miktzas Beheimah Metam'ah, *u'Miktzas
Beheimah Einah Metam'ah'*?
(d) How can he learn two things from the same Pasuk?
(a) What does Rebbi Yossi Hagelili in a Beraisa learn from "ve'Chi Yamus"
and Rebbi Akiva and Rebbi, from "Beheimah", both in the same Pasuk?
(b) What is the difference between Rebbi Akiva, who requires 'Gidin
va'Atzamos' and ...
(c) The same triple Machlokes is repeated by Sheratzim, where Rebbi Yossi
Hagelili learns the same thing from "e'Mosam" and Rebbi Akiva and Rebbi from
- ... Rebbi, who requires 'Basar, Gidin va'Atzamos'?
- ... Rebbi Yossi Hagelili, who defines an Eiver as 'Eino Oseh Chalipin'?
Why do we need two sets of Limudim? What would we have thought,
had the Torah only taught us this with regard to ...
- ... Beheimah, that Basar Sheratzim is Metamei even in their lifetime?
- ... Sheratzim, that Basar Beheimah is Metamei even in its lifetime?
(a) What distinction does the Beraisa draw between someone who cut off a
k'Beitzah Basar from Eiver min ha'Chai and then had the Machshavah to feed
it to a Nochri, and one who had the Machshavah first and then cut it off?
Answers to questions
(b) Why did Rebbi Asi need to ask Rebbi Zeira what they had learned in the
Beis-Hamedrash that day?
(c) When Rebbi Zeira asked what his problem was, he cited the current
What problem did he have with its second ruling?
(d) Rebbi Zeira replied that he had had the same problem and that he had in
fact, asked Rebbi Aba bar Mamal.
What did Rebbi Aba bar Mamal reply? Like
whom did he establish the Beraisa?