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1) ACQUISTIONS OF MINORS
(a) Rav Chisda holds that we only say that Rabbinical
enactments are patterned on Torah laws when they have a
source in the Torah.
2) A MESSENGER TO RECEIVE A GET
(b) Question (Rav Avya - Mishnah): We may scheme to redeem
Ma'aser Sheni without adding the additional fifth (by
having someone else redeem it for him);
1. A man may tell his adult son or daughter, his
Yisrael male or female slave - 'Here is money - go
redeem this Ma'aser Sheni'.
(c) (Rava): They are 3 ages of minors regarding acquisitions:
2. Question: What is the case of his female slave?
i. Suggestion: If she brought hairs (and became a
Na'arah) - she is free, she is not his slave!
3. Answer: Rather, she is still a minor, (and the
Mishnah says that she may redeem on behalf of
4. Answer #1: The Mishnah refers to Ma'aser Sheni
nowadays (after the Churban) which is only
5. Objection: Nowadays we do not have Yisrael slaves!
i. (Beraisa): Yisrael slaves only apply when Yovel
6. Answer #2: The Mishnah refers of Ma'aser Sheni of
produce that grew in a flowerpot without a hole,
which is only mid'Rabanan.
1. A child that discards a rock but keeps a nut - He
can acquire for himself, not for others;
i. An (orphaned) girl of this age may become
2. Pa'utos (mature children) - they can buy and sell
Metaltelim (possessions other than land).
i. A girl of this age may become divorced, even if
she was engaged mid'Oraisa by her father.
3. When he reaches the age of vows - his vows are
binding; if he made his property Hekdesh, it takes
i. A girl of this age may do Chalitzah.
4. A child may not sell land he inherited from his
father until he is 20.
(a) (Mishnah): A minor made a messenger to receive her Get -
it does not take effect until it reaches her hand;
3) IS A PERSON INSISTENT THAT HIS DIRECTIONS ARE FOLLOWED?
1. Therefore, her husband may retract until she gets
(b) If her father made a messenger to receive her Get, her
husband cannot retract after he gives it.
2. This is because a minor cannot make a messenger.
(c) A man told a messenger: 'Give this Get to my wife in
Ploni (a certain place)'; the messenger gave it somewhere
else - the Get is invalid;
1. If he told the messenger: 'Give this Get to my wife
- she is in Ploni', and the messenger gave it
somewhere else - the Get is valid.
(d) A woman told a messenger: 'Receive my Get in Ploni'; the
messenger received it somewhere else - the Get is
invalid; R. Elazar says, it is valid;
1. If she told the messenger: 'Bring my Get from
Ploni', and the messenger brought it from somewhere
else - the Get is valid.
(e) (Gemara) Question: Why does R. Elazar only argue in the
end of the Mishnah regarding divorce?
(f) Answer: The husband decides if he wants to divorce his
wife, so he can be particular about the place; a woman is
divorced against her will, she cannot decide where the
Get will be given - she merely suggests to the messenger
where she thinks he can get the Get.
(a) (Mishnah): A Kohen's wife told a messenger: 'Bring my
Get' - she may eat Terumah until the Get comes to her
(b) If she said 'Receive my Get' - she is immediately
forbidden to eat Terumah;
(c) If she said 'Receive my Get in Ploni (a certain place)' -
she may eat Terumah until the Get gets there;
1. R. Eliezer says, she is immediately forbidden to eat
(d) (Gemara) Question: In the last case, the Get is valid
(even if the messenger received it in a different place)
- but the previous Mishnah taught, it is invalid!
(e) Answer: The case is, she asked him to receive it in 1
place, and remarked that her husband is often found in a
1. She wants that he take the Get wherever he finds her
husband, but the divorce should only take effect
when he gets to the first place.
(f) (Mishnah): R. Eliezer says, she is immediately forbidden
to eat Terumah.
4) LANGUAGES AUTHORIZING DIVORCE
(g) Question: This is obvious, for he holds that she is
merely suggesting where he will find her husband, but
authorizes him to receive the Get anywhere!
(h) Answer: The case is, she told him to go the east, for her
husband is coming from the east, and the messenger went
to the west.
1. One might have thought, since he surely will not
find her husband in the west, she is not forbidden
(i) (Beraisa #1): Reuven told a messenger: 'Place an Eiruv of
dates for me'; he placed an Eiruv of figs - the Eiruv is
2. We hear, this is not so, for he might encounter her
husband in the west.
(j) Contradiction (Beraisa #2): The Eiruv is invalid.
(k) Answer #1 (Rabah): Beraisa #1 is as R. Eliezer, who holds
that when a person gives directions to a messenger, he is
just suggesting the easiest way to fulfill the mission,
but he is not insistent that it be done that way;
1. Beraisa #2 is as Chachamim, who hold that a person
is insistent that things be done as he said.
(l) Answer #2 (Rav Yosef): Both Beraisos are as Chachamim.
1. [Version #1 (Rashi) - Beraisa #1 is when Reuven
asked that the Eiruv be made from Reuven's dates - a
person does not care which food is used for his
(m) Question (Abaye - Beraisa #1): Reuven told a messenger:
'Place an Eiruv in the tower for me', and he placed it in
the dovecote, or vice-versa - the Eiruv is valid;
2. Beraisa #2 is when Reuven asked that the Eiruv be
made with Shimon's dates (which Reuven had
permission to do);
i. Since Reuven had no permission to take Shimon's
figs, the Eiruv is invalid.]
3. [Version #2 (Tosfos) - Beraisa #1 is when Reuven
asked the messenger to make the Eiruv from the
messenger's dates - Reuven does not care if the
messenger used his own figs instead;
4. Beraisa #2 is when Reuven asked the messenger to
make the Eiruv with Reuven's dates - here, we say he
specifically wanted the dates.]
1. Contradiction (Beraisa #2): The Eiruv is invalid.
(n) Answer: It does - the Beraisa refers to making the Eiruv
using fruit in the tower or dovecote.
2. There, it makes no difference if the Eiruv is made
with Reuven's food or not!
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven said: 'Write a Get and give it to my
wife', or 'divorce her', or 'Write a letter and give it
to her' - they may write and give a Get;
(b) If he said 'Exempt her', or 'finance her', or 'do as is
proper to her' or 'do as is fitting to her' - his words
(c) (Gemara - Beraisa): If he said 'Send her', 'abandon her',
or 'Cut her off' - they may write and give a Get;
(d) If he said 'Exempt her', or 'finance her', or 'do as is
proper to her' or 'do as is fitting to her' - his words
(e) (Beraisa - R. Noson): If he said 'Patruha' (exempt her) -
we fulfill this; if he said 'Pitruha', his words are
void. (Rashi's text is just the opposite - he explains,
Pitruha is the language used in a Get; Patruha refers to
exempting her from a monetary obligation.)
1. R. Noson is from Bavel, he distinguishes between
Pitruha (an Arame'ic word) and Patruha (which is
Hebrew); the Tana of our Mishnah, who is from Eretz
Yisrael, does not distinguish.
(f) Question: What is the law if he says 1 of the following:
'Take her out'; 'Abandon her'; 'Permit her'; 'Leave her
alone'; 'Do what will help her'; 'Do as the Torah says
should be done for her'?
(g) Answer: We can answer 1 of these.
(h) (Beraisa): 'Do as the Torah says should be done for her',
or 'do as is proper to her', or 'do as is fitting' - his
words are void.