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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
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Previous daf Horayos 11
HORAYOS 11 (7 Sivan) - L'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Grune Fradl bas ha'Rav Shmuel
David Levinson (who passed away on 7 Sivan 5753), a true 'Isha Yir'as
Hashem.' Dedicated by her son.
(a) From the switch in Lashon by Amon, where the Torah writes "Al Tetzureim
ve'Al Tisgar Bam", to Mo'av, where it writes "Al Tatzar es Mo'av ve'Al
Tisgar Bam Milchamah", we extrapolate - that although Yisrael were forbidden
to start up with Amon at all, the prohibition against Mo'av was confined to
engaging them in battle (but did not extend to making forays into their
territory and suchlike).
(b) The reason that Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan gives to explain
that is - because Mo'av's mother (the elder sister), called him by a name
which publicizes what she did ('me'Av', from my father), whereas her sister
chose a less suggestive name for son Amon. And Hashem rewards a person for
(c) Mo'av preceded Amon in joining K'lal Yisrael by four generations (Oved,
Yishai, David and Shlomoh), because whereas Rus married Bo'az (Oved's
father), Na'amah ha'Amonis married Rechavam, Shlomoh's son.
(d) Rebbi Chiya bar Avin Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Korchah attributes this -
to the fact that the older daughter of Lot preceded the younger one by one
night (from which we learn that, when it comes to performing a Mitzvah, the
sooner the better).
(a) The Pasuk "me'Am ha'Aretz" comes to preclude - a Kohen Gadol and a Nasi
from bringing a Kisbah or a Se'irah by Shigegas Ma'aseh.
(b) We need a Pasuk to preclude a Kohen Gadol - because we only know that
his Korban consists of a Par when there has been He'elam Davar (but not by
Shigegas Ma'aseh, where in fact, he is Patur altogether, as we have already
(c) This answer is not adequate to explain why we need a Pasuk for a Nasi -
since he is Chayav to bring a Sa'ir by Shigegas Ma'aseh alone, as we have
(a) To explain the Miy'ut by Nasi, Rav Z'vid in the name of Rava initially
establishes the case where he ate a k'Zayis of Cheilev when he was still a
Hedyot, but only realized that he had, after he was crowned king. And the
Pasuk is coming to teach us - that the sinner's Chiyuv is determined by his
status at the time that he realizes that he sinned, and not by his status at
the time that he sinned ...
(b) ... like the opinion of Rebbi Shimon - leaving us with a Kashya on the
(a) So Rav Z'vid amends Rava's answer to conform with the Rabbanan - by
establishing the case when the Nasi ate half a k'Zayis when he was still a
Hedyot, and another half after he was crowned, and it was then that he
became aware of both k'Zeisim.
(b) We would have thought that he is Chayav to bring a Kisbah or Se'irah -
because seeing as he ate the first half k'Zayis when he was a Hedyot, the
second half k'Zayis does not combine with the first.
(c) This does not mean that he brings a Sa'ir - because since the two halves
do not combine, he is in fact, altogether Patur from a Korban.
(d) We opted not to explain that the Pasuk comes to teach us that the first
half-k'Zayis does not combine with the second one, to teach us that he does
not bring a Sa'ir - because the Pasuk is talking about the Chiyuv to bring a
Kisbah or Se'irah, so we preferred to teach the Chidush in that case, too.
(a) Rebbi Zeira asked Rav Sheishes what the Din will be if a Nasi ate a
piece of Safek Cheilev before he was crowned king, but realized what he had
done only afterwards - according to Rebbi Shimon (because according to the
Rabbanan, it is obvious that he will be Chayav, just like any other Yachid.
(b) The She'eilah is - that seeing as (unlike a Vaday, where his Korban
changes when he becomes king) he brings the same Korban whether he is a
Hedyot or whether he is a king, so perhaps he will not be subject to the
(c) The outcome of the She'eilah is - 'Teiku'.
(a) The Tana Kama in a Beraisa learns from "me'Am ha'Aretz", 'P'rat
le'Mumar'. Rebbi Shimon b'Rebbi Yossi in the name of Rebbi Shimon learns
from the Pasuk "Asher Lo Se'asenah bi'Shegagah Ve'ashem" - that a sinner
only brings a Korban for a Shogeg from which he will retract once he knows
he knows that what he is doing is forbidden.
(b) The problem with this Machlokes is - that they seem to be saying the
same thing (seeing as a Mumar is a prime example of someone who will not
retract, even if he knows that what he is doing is forbidden).
(c) Rav Hamnuna suggests that they argue over whether a Mumar to eat Cheilev
needs to bring a Korban for drinking blood - in which case the Tana Kama
will exempt him from a Korban (since he is a Mumar), whereas Rebbi Shimon
bar Yossi will obligate him (seeing as he will retract, once he knows that
he is drinking blood).
(d) We refute Rav Hamnuna's explanation however, due to a statement by Rava,
who says - that, according to all opinions, someone who is a Mumar to eat
Cheilev is not considered a Mumar to bring blood.
(a) So we establish the Machlokes by a Mumar who eats Neveilah for pleasure,
but on this occasion, he actually intended to eat Shuman, and after eating
it, he discovered that it was Cheilev - in which case, according to the Tana
Kama, he is considered a Mumar (seeing as he does eat Isur on purpose) and
he will be Patur; whereas according to Rebbi Shimon bar Yossi, since he
retracts when he has Heter, he is considered 'Shav mi'Yedi'aso', and is
therefore Chayav to bring a Korban.
(b) Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan amends a jumbled Beraisa by
differentiating between a Mumar and a Tzedoki (or a Miyn [a heretic]). The
Tana defines ...
1. ... a Mumar - as someone who eats Cheilev (which some people enjoy
eating) for pleasure.
(c) The Halachic distinction between them is - that a. the Shechitah of the
latter has the Din of Avodas-Kochavim and b. (according to some) one may
also throw him into a deep pit and remove the ladder.
2. ... a Tzedoki - as someone who eats it to anger Hashem (i.e. even when
there is Shuman available.
(d) Rebbi Yochanan then explains the continuation of the Beraisa 'Achal
Neveilah, u'Tereifah (see Mesores ha'Shas), Shekatzim u'Remasim' to mean -
that in all of these cases, which are considered inedible, he is considered
a Tzedoki (even S'tam).
(e) The Tana add to the list - someone who drinks Yayin Nesech.
(a) Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah considers someone who wears Kil'ayim - even
Kil'ayim de'Rabbanan, a Mumar, whereas the Tana Kama considers a Mumar only
someone who wears Kil'ayim d'Oraysa.
(b) Kil'ayim ...
1. ... d'Oraysa is - a thread of wool that is woven fully into a linen
garment (or vice-versa) i.e. that they are 'Shu'a (combed together), Tavuy
(spun together) ve'Nuz' (woven together).
(c) Rav Acha and Ravina argue over the definition of a 'Mumar' and a
'Tzedoki'. One of them learns like the Tana Kama of the previous Beraisa.
The other one considers both definitions to fall under the category of
Mumar; whereas a Tzedoki in his opinion, is - someone who worships idols.
2. ... de'Rabbanan is - when a thread is either Shu'a or Tavuy or Nuz.
(d) The Beraisa calls someone who eats a beetle or an ant - a Mumar.
(e) We reconcile this with the first opinion above (which considers eating
insects to be a Tzedoki) - by establishing the Beraisa by someone who is
simply trying out the taste of every conceivable Isur (and whose intention
therefore, is not to anger Hashem).
(a) The Beraisa learn from the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "mi'Kol Mitzvos Hashem
Elokav" (in Vayikra, in connection with a Chatas of a Nasi) from "Lema'an
Yilmad Le'yir'ah es Hashem" (Shoftim, in connection with a king) - that just
as the latter is speaking about a king (ever whom no-one but Hashem had
jurisdiction), so too does the former.
(b) When Rebbi (who was the supreme authority in Eretz Yisrael) asked Rebbi
Chiya whether, in the time of the Beis-Hamikdash, he would be Chayav to
bring a Sa'ir for a Chet - he replied in the negative, because the Resh
Galusa was his superior.
(c) We reconcile the Beraisa 'Malta Yisrael u'Malchei Beis David Eilu
Mevi'im le'Atzmam, ve'Eilu Mevi'im le'Atzmam' - by pointing out that neither
was under the jurisiction of the other (in the way that Rebbi was under the
jurisdiction of the Resh Galusa).
(d) According to Rav Safra's version, Rebbi Chiya, based on a Pasuk in
Vayechi, answered Rebbi 'Hasam Sheivet, Hacha Mechokek', by which he meant -
that whereas the heads of Bavel ruled with their brawn ("Sheivet" means a
stick), the heads of Eretz Yisrael (in particular, Hillel and his
descendants) ruled with their brains ("Mechokek" means Chochmah).
(a) The Tana'im in this Masechta refer to the Kohen Gadol as 'Mashu'ach' -
which comes to preclude a Merubeh Begadim (the Kohanim Gedolim who were
inaugurated by wearing the eight garments of a Kohen Gadol, such as those
who lived in the era of the second Beis-Hamikdash).
(b) Our Tana presents - only one difference between a Kohen Mashu'ach and a
Merubeh Begadim; namely, the current one, which obligates the former to
bring a Par He'elam Davar, but not the latter (who brings a Kisbah or a
Se'irah like any other Yachid).
(c) A Kohen she'Avar (as opposed to a Kohen ha'Meshamesh) is - a Kohen Gadol
who deputized for the Tamei Kohen Gadol on Yom-Kipur, and stood down upon
(d) The two differences between them are - the Kohen Gadol's bull of Yom
Kipur and his bi-daily Minchas Chavitin (consisting a tenth of an Eifah of
(a) Both the Kohen she'Avar and the Kohen Meshamesh are eligible to perform
the Avodah on Yom Kipur. They are both ...
1. ... obligated to marry - a Besulah.
(b) Besides the fact that both of them are eligible to perform the Avodah on
Yom-Kipur and are forbidden to bury even their close relatives - they are
also forbidden to rent their clothes or let their hair grow (in mourning for
their deceased relatives), and if either of them die, the murderers in the
cities of refuge are permitted to leave.
2. ... forbidden to marry - an Almanah.
(c) According to Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, when Moshe manufactured the
anointing oil in the desert, he actually boiled all the ingredients (listed
in Ki Sisa) in the oil. Rebbi Yossi objected to that - because, he claimed,
there was not sufficient oil to soak the large quantity of spices that were
required, let alone boil them together.
(d) Rebbi Yossi therefore explains - that they first boiled the other
ingredients in water (with which they became satiated), and then poured the
oil on top (to absorb the aroma of the spices), before skimming it off.
(a) Rebbi Yehudah countered Rebbi Yossi's argument - by ascribing the oil's
lasting power to a miracle, seeing as the mere fact that it lasted forever,
even after they had used it (a mere twelve Lugin) to anoint, on seven
consecutive days, the Mishkan and all its vessels, plus Aharon and his sons.
And if one miracle could occur, why shouldn't another?
(b) We learn from the Pasuk in "Shemen Mishchas Kodesh Yih'yeh Zeh Li
le'Doroseichem" - that although it only comprised twelve Lugin (the
numerical value of "Zeh"), it was destined to last forever.
(c) In another Beraisa, Rebbi Yehudah adds other aspects to the miracle of
the oil remaining intact - pointing out that (apart from the proportion of
the oil to the spices and the number of people and objects it anointed) one
would have expected the caldron, the spices and the fire to absorb some of
(d) The Beraisa draws a distinction between a Kohen Gadol ben Kohen Gadol -
who requires anointing (in order to be eligible to perform the Avodah) and a
Melech ben Melech - who does not.
(a) In spite of what we just said, they saw fit to anoint Shlomoh, Yo'ash
and Yeho'achaz (who all succeeded their fathers on the throne) - because of
Adoniyahu (Sh'lomoh's brother), Asalyah (the current Queen) and Yehoyakim
(Yeho'achaz's brother), who would otherwise have posed a threat to the three
kings in question.
(b) We learn from the Pasuk "ve'ha'Kohen ha'Mashi'ach Tachtav mi'Banav" -
that the new Kohen Gadol must be anointed, even if he is the son of the
previous one. Otherwise, the Torah should have omitted the word
(c) We learn from the Pasuk ...
1. ... "Lema'an Ya'arich Yamim *Hu u'Vanav*" - that the kingship is an
inheritance that is handed down from father to son, and does not therefore
require anointing (Rav Acha bar Ya'akov)?
2. ... "Hu u'Vanav *be'Kerev Yisrael*" - that the above only applies when
there is peace among the people, but when there is strife, then the chosen
king must be anointed, to strengthen his hand and avert Machlokes (Rav
(a) Rava learns from the Pasuk (in connection with David Hamelech) "Kum
Mashcheihu, Ki Zeh Hu" - that only kings of Malchus Beis-David need to be
anointed, but not of Malchus Yisrael.
(b) They anointed Yeihu ben Nimshi (who was King of Malchus Yisrael) - only
to prevent Yoram the son of Achav from rebelling against him.
(c) To answer the Kashya how they could be Mo'el with the anointing oil by
using it to anoint someone who was not from Malchus Beis-David, we cite Rav
Papa who will say later - that in order not to be Mo'el with the Shemen
ha'Mishchah, they used Afarsemon oil to anoint kings who were not from
Malchus Beis-David (and not the Shemen ha'Mishchah, which consisted of olive
(a) They anointed Yeho'achaz, son of Yoshiyahu, the Tana explains, because
of Yehoyakim, who was his senior by two years. Rebbi Yochanan, with
reference to the Pasuk "u'Venei Yoshiyah ha'Bechor Yochanan, ha'Sheini
Yehoyakim, he'Shelishi Tzidkiyahu, ha'Revi'i Shalum", comments - that Shalum
and Tzidkiyahu were one and the same person, and so were Yochanan and
Yeho'achaz (see Agados Maharsha).
(b) To reconcile this with what we just said (that Yehoyakim was older than
Yeho'achaz), we interpret 'Bechor' as - the first in line to rule.
(c) They crowned Yehoram son of Yehoshafat, king 'because he was the oldest
sibling' - due to the fact that he was a worthy successor of his father
(since he was still a Tzadik at that time), whereas Yehoyakim was not. Note,
we will then have to say that Yeho'achaz (like Yehoram), whom the Pasuk
describes as 'evil', was still a Tzadik when he became king, and only
(a) The problem with Rebbi Yochanan's previous statement (that Shalum,
Tzidkiyahu, Yochanan and Yeho'achaz were one and the same person) is from
the Pasuk itself - which specifically writes "ha'Shelishi Tzidkiyahu,
ha'Revi'i" Shalum (so how could they be the same person)?
(b) We therefore explain "Shelishi" and "Revi'i" in the Pasuk to mean - that
Tzidkiyahu was the third son (after Yehoyakim and Yeho'achaz), and Shalum
(the same person), the fourth to rule (since his nephew Yechonyah, son of
Yehoyakim) ruled before him.
(c) The Beraisa, corroborating Rebbi Yochanan's previous statement, explains
why Tzidkiyahu had two names. He was called ...
1. ... Shalum (according to the first version) - because he was perfect in
his deeds (see last Agados Maharsha).
(d) He did not, in fact, keep his oath.
2. ... Tzidkiyahu (according to the second version) - because Nevuchadnetzar
changed his original name, warning him that Hashem would be 'Matzdik on him
the Din' (would judge him accordingly) if he broke the oath that he made
when he crowned him (that he would not rebel against him).