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1) WHICH "KORBANOS" ARE "ME'AKEV" EACH OTHER?
(a) (Gemara) Question: Which bulls and sheep does the Mishnah
2) DIFFICULT VERSES IN "YECHEZKEL"
1. Suggestion: It discusses those of (Musafim of)
(b) Answer: It discusses those of Rosh Chodesh, and of (Musaf
of) Shavu'os written in Bamidbar (in Parshas Pinchus).
2. Rejection: It says "Ka'Mishpat" regarding them, they
are Me'akev each other!
(c) Question: Which rams does the Mishnah discuss?
1. It cannot be of Rosh Chodesh, and those of Shavu'os
in Bamidbar, for only one ram is offered then!
(d) Answer: It means, the (two) rams of Shavu'os in Vayikra
are not Me'akev the ram of Shavu'os in Bamidbar, nor
2. It cannot be those of Shavu'os written in Vayikra
(brought with Shtei ha'Lechem, in Parshas Emor), for
it says 'Havayah' regarding them (they are Me'akev
(e) Question: According to this, the Tana taught together
totally opposite laws!
1. Bulls of Rosh Chodesh, or of Shavu'os in Bamidbar
are not Me'akev each other (the same applies to
(f) Answer: Indeed, the Tana taught each case by itself, even
though they oppose each other.
2. The rams (of Shavu'os) in Vayikra are not Me'akev
those in Bamidbar, nor vice-versa - however, those
in Vayikra are Me'akev each other!
(g) Question: "Uv'Yom ha'Chodesh *Par* Ben Bakar Temimim
v'Sheshes Kevasim va'Ayil Temimim Yihyu" - why does it
mention *a* bull? (Two bulls are brought on Rosh
(h) Answer: This teaches that if we cannot bring two bulls,
we bring one.
(i) Question: Why does it mention six lambs? (Sseven are
brought on Rosh Chodesh!)
(j) Answer: This teaches that if we cannot bring seven, we
(k) Question: How do we know that if we cannot bring six, we
bring five; if not five, four...three, two or one?
(l) Answer: "Vela'Kevasim ka'Asher Tasig Yado".
(m) Question: This verse teaches to bring as many as possible
- what do we learn from the six lambs in the previous
(n) Answer: It teaches that we should make great efforts to
bring as many as possible.
(o) Question: What is the source that all the animals of one
type are Me'akev each other (if we have them all? -
Rashi; Shitah Mekubetzes - we bring as many Zevachim as
we can, even if this will not leave money for their
Nesachim - this is unlike R. Shimon.)
(p) Answer: "Yihyu".
(a) Question: "...Ba'Rishon b'Echad la'Chodesh Tikach Par Ben
Bakar Tamim v'Chitesa Es ha'Makdish" - 'Chitesa' is from
the word Chatas, but the bull of Rosh Chodesh is an Olah!
3) R. SHIMON'S OPINION
(b) R. Yochanan: Until Eliyahu comes, no one will be able to
explain this verse.
(c) Answer (Rav Ashi): The verse discusses Milu'im (inaugural
Korbanos) offered in the days of Ezra, like those of
Chanukas ha'Mishkan (Rashi; R. Gershom - it discusses
Milu'im that will be offered in the third Mikdash, just
as Milu'im resembling those of the Mishkan were offered
in the days of Ezra.)
(d) Support (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): Until Eliyahu comes, no
one will be able to explain this verse.
1. R. Yosi: It discusses Milu'im offered in the days of
(e) Question: "Kol Neveilah u'Treifah Min ha'Of u'Min
ha'Behemah Lo Yochlu ha'Kohanim" - are Neveilos and
Treifos forbidden only to Kohanim and permitted to
2. R. Yehudah: You calmed my mind, you should be
(f) R. Yochanan: Until Eliyahu comes, no one will be able to
explain this verse.
(g) Answer (Ravina): The verse must teach that they are
forbidden to Kohanim;
1. Since Kohanim are permitted to eat Melikah (of
Chatas ha'Of), one might have thought that all
Neveilos and Treifos are permitted to them.
(h) (R. Yochanan): "V'Chen Ta'aseh ba'Shivah va'Chodesh
me'Ish Shogeh umi'Pesi v'Chipartem Es ha'Bayis" - this
refers to (a Par He'elam Davar for) seven Shevatim that
sinned (by following a mistaken ruling of the Great
Sanhedrin), even though they are the minority of Yisrael;
1. "Chodesh" refers to a Chidush, i.e. they
(mistakenly) changed the Halachah and permitted
Chelev (or another Chiyuv Kares);
(i) (Rav Yehudah): If not for Chanina ben Chizkiyah, Sefer
Yechezkel would have been put in Genizah because of its
(seeming) contradictions to Torah;
2. "Me'Ish Shogeh umi'Pesi" - the Korban is brought
only if the Hora'ah was mistaken and the people
1. He brought 300 barrels of oil up to an attic (for
light at night) and expounded, resolving the
(a) (Mishnah - R. Shimon): If Hekdesh has many bulls...
(b) (Beraisa - R. Shimon) Question: "V'Eifah la'Par v'Eifah
la'Ayil Ya'aseh Minchah vela'Kevasim ka'Asher Tasig Yado
v'Shemen Hin la'Eifah" - Minchas Nesachim for bulls is
(three Esronim,) not the same as that for rams (two
Esronim!) (Tosfos, citing Rashi - we do not ask that both
of these are less than an Eifah (10 Esronim) - perhaps
two or three Esronim are extracted from (sifting) an
Eifah; R. Gershom - the Eifah of Yechezkel is smaller
than that of the Torah; alternatively, in the fiuture,
Minchas Nesachim will be bigger.)
(c) Answer (R. Shimon): Rather, this teaches that if Hekdesh
has (money for) many bulls but not for all the Nesachim,
they bring one bull and its Nesech, they do not bring the
bulls without Nesachim;
1. If they had rams but not enough Eifos (flour), they
bring one ram and its Nesech, they do not bring the
rams without Nesachim.
4) "KORBANOS" THAT WERE NOT OFFERED IN THE DESERT
(a) (Mishnah): The bull, rams, (seven) sheep (i.e. Olos) and
goat (brought with Shtei ha'Lechem) are not Me'akev the
bread, the bread is not Me'akev them;
(b) R. Akiva says, the bread is Me'akev the (two) sheep
(Zivchei Shalmei Tzibur brought with Shtei ha'Lechem),
these sheep are not Me'akev the bread;
(c) R. Shimon ben Nanas says, these sheep are Me'akev the
bread, the bread is not Me'akev them:
1. The 40 years that Benei Yisrael were in the Midbar
they offered the sheep, but not the bread (Rashi -
it must be from grain of Eretz Yisrael; R. Tam - the
Torah says to bring the Omer "Ki Savo'u El
ha'Aretz", and Shtei ha'Lechem is brought (seven
weeks) after the Omer; Tosfos - Shtei ha'Lechem is
called Bikurim, Bikurim only apply in Eretz
(d) R. Shimon says, the Halachah follows Ben Nanas, but for a
1. All the Korbanos in Sefer Bamidbar were offered in
the Midbar, all those in Sefer Vayikra were not
offered in the Midbar;
(e) The sheep can be offered without the bread, for they
permit themselves; the bread cannot be offered without
the sheep, for nothing else can permit it.
2. When Benei Yisrael entered Eretz Yisrael, both of
them were offered.
(f) (Gemara - Beraisa): "V'Hikravtem Al ha'Lechem" - this is
a Chovah on the bread (the following Korbanos cannot be
offered without the bread, nor vice-versa);
1. "Shiv'ah Kevasim Temimim" - even without the bread.
(g) Suggestion: Perhaps these seven lambs (in Emor) are the
same seven mentioned in Bamidbar!
2. Question: How can we resolve this with "V'Hikravtem
3. Answer (R. Tarfon): (It does not teach that the
Korbanos and bread are Me'akev each other, rather,)
it teaches that the Chiyuv to offer the sheep begins
with (entry into Eretz Yisrael, which began) the
Chiyuv to offer Shtei ha'Lechem.
(h) Rejection: We see that the bulls and rams are different
(here it says to bring one bull and two rams, there it
says two bulls and one ram - presumably, also the sheep
1. Rather, the Korbanos in Emor are on account of the
bread, those in Bamidbar are regular Musafim, not on
account of the bread.
(i) Suggestion: Even though the bulls and rams in Emor are
not the same as those in Bamidbar, perhaps the seven
lambs in Emor are the same seven mentioned in Bamidbar!
2. It turns out that the Korbanos in Sefer Bamidbar
were offered in the Midbar, those in Sefer Vayikra
(j) Rejection: Since the bulls and rams are different, also
the sheep are different.
(k) Question: Perhaps the Torah allows us to bring one bull
and two rams *or* two bulls and one ram!
(l) Rejection: The Torah changed the order (in Emor the lambs
are mentioned first, in Bamidbar they are last) to teach
that they are different Korbanos.
(m) (Mishnah - R. Akiva): The bread is Me'akev the (two)
(n) Question: What is his reason?
(o) Answer #1: ("Yihyu" is an Ikuv, it is not clear from
context whether it refers to the bread or the sheep -) he
learns "Yihyu" from "(Soles) Tihyenah" (which refers to
1. Ben Nanas learns "Yihyu" from "(Shiv'ah Kevasim)
Yihyu" (which refers to sheep.)
(p) Answer #2: The Tana'im argue about the verse "Kodesh
Yihyu la'Sh-m la'Kohen":
2. Question: Why doesn't Ben Nanas learn like R. Akiva?
3. Answer: It is better to learn "Yihyu" from "Yihyu"
than from "Tihyenah".
4. Objection: We can learn from a Gezerah Shavah, even
if the words are not the same!
i. (Beraisa - Tana d'Vei R. Yishmael): "*V'Shav*
ha'Kohen-*U'Va* ha'Kohen" - this (Gezeirah
Shavah) equates the law (of a house with
Tzara'as) when the Kohen (first) returns with
when he comes (another week later).
5. Answer: When there are different options, we learn
the Gezerah Shavah from the words that are more
6. Question: Why doesn't R. Akiva learn like Ben Nanas?
7. Answer: The verse discusses things given to Kohanim
(two sheep and Shtei ha'Lechem), it is better to
learn them from something (Shtei ha'Lechem) given to
Kohanim than from (the seven sheep, which are) Olos.
1. R. Akiva says, this refers to Shtei ha'Lechem, which
is totally given to Kohanim;
2. Ben Nanas argues, for it does not say 'Kodesh Yihyu
la'Kohen', rather, "Kodesh Yihyu la'Sh-m la'Kohen" -
part goes (on the Mizbe'ach) to Hash-m, part to
Kohanim (i.e. Shalmei Tzibur);
3. R. Akiva counters, it does not say 'Kodesh Yihyu
la'Sh-m *ve*la'Kohen', rather, "la'Sh-m la'Kohen" -
we explain like Rav Huna:
i. (Rav Huna): Hash-m acquires (Tosfos - Shtei
ha'Lechem; Rashi - money stolen from a convert
which the thief wants to 'return' after the
convert died,) and gives to the Kohen.