ANSWERS TO REVIEW QUESTIONS
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Moed Katan 9
The Beraisa which permits marrying on *Erev* Yom-Tov presents all four
opinions with a Kashya, seeing as the seven days of Sheva B'rachos
inevitably go into Yom-Tov. We answer according to Rav and Shmuel (Simchah)
and Ula (Tircha) respectively, that both the main Simchah and the main
Tircha of a wedding are confined to the first day. We answer the Kashya
according to Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha (who is concerned about Bitul Piryah
ve'Rivyah) - that since one is now confined to starting the Simchah on Erev
Yom-Tov, people will not postpone their weddings until then, in case
something happens that renders marrying on that day impossible, causing the
wedding to be postponed until after Yom-Tov (with nothing having been
achieved by waiting).
(a) We learn 'Ein Me'arvin Simchah be'Simchah' from the fourteen days
inauguration of the Beis Hamikdash of Shlomoh ha'Melech - because the Pasuk
testifies that they celebrated seven days (until Sukos) and then seven days
on Sukos. Why did they not wait until Sukos and celebrate them both at once?
We finally prove that, under no circumstances, may one combine two sets of
S'machos - from the fact that after having stated that they celebrated
fourteen days, the Pasuk adds "seven days and seven days", indicating that
the two sets of celebration (for the completion of the Beis Hamikdash and
for Yom-Tov) were deliberately kept separate.
(b) We reject this proof however - on the grounds that, perhaps Shlomoh
delayed the celebrations for this reason, but whenever the cause for the
second celebration falls together with the first, then we will indeed
celebrate them together?
(c) If we accept this contention, asks the Gemara, then Shlomoh should have
delayed the completion of the Beis Hamikdash a little? We reject this
objection however - because one does not delay the completion of the Beis
(d) Nor could he simply leave over the 'Kalya Orev' (a slanting roof ending
at a width of one Amah, which they then filled with metal and nails, to
prevent the birds from resting on the roof of the Beis-Hamikdash and making
a mess there - a minor addition to the Beis Hamikdash) until Sukos and
combine them - because the 'Kalya Orev' too, is considered an intrinsic
part of the Beis Hamikdash.
(a) The year that the Beis Hamikdash was completed, they did something that
they would not have dreamt of doing any other year - they ate on Yom Kipur.
(b) Hashem respond to their worry that perhaps they had performed a terrible
sin - by sending a 'Bas-Kol' which informed them that they were all ready
for Olam ha'Ba.
(c) Shlomoh learned this concession from a three-point 'Kal va'Chomer' from
the Mishkan, where they broke Shabbos at its inauguration. The three points
are - that the Kedushah of the Mishkan was not permanent, that the Korban
that they were bringing was a Korban Yachid and the Isur (that of Yom Kipur)
only Kareis, yet they broke Shabbos; in our case, the Kedushah of the Beis
Hamikdash was permanent, the Korban that they were bringing was a Korban
Tzibur and the Isur (that of Shabbos) an Isur Sekilah.
(d) In spite of the Kal va'Chomer, they were worried that maybe they had
done the wrong thing by eating on Yom Kipur - because, whereas at the
inauguration of the Mishkan, they broke Shabbos by performing the Avodah
(not to their personal benefit), at the inauguration of the Beis Hamikdash,
they broke Yom Kipur by eating (from which they derived personal benefit).
Their worry was baseless however, because there is no Simchah without eating
(making the eating of the Korbanos as much an obligation as bringing them).
(a) We learn that they broke Shabbos by the inauguration of the Mishkan from
the Pesukim in Naso "u've'Yom Ashtei-Asar Yom" and "be'Yom Shneim-Asar
Yom" - to teach us that the days were consecutive (so that they must have
included at least one Shabbos).
(b) We need *two* Pesukim for that - because from one Pasuk only, we would
have thought that the days were not consecutive, but incorporated only the
days on which Korbanos can normally be brought (to the exclusion of
(c) We know that they broke Yom Kipur by the inauguration of the Beis
Hamikdash (and that the fourteen does not refer exclusively to days on which
one is permitted to eat) - because of the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Yom" "Yom" from
(d) We learn that Hashem forgave them, from the Pasuk in Melachim 1 "ba'Yom
ha'Shemini Shalach es ha'Am ... ". We learn from ...
1. ... "le'Oholeihem" - that they all returned home and found their wives
2. ... "S'meichim" - that they derived pleasure from the Glory of the
3. ... "ve'Tovei Leiv" - that each and every woman became pregnant with a
4. ... "al Kol ha'Tovah" - that a Bas-Kol announced that they were all
prepared for Olam ha'Ba.
(a) The above Pasuk concludes "le'David Avdo u'le'Yisrael Amo". We learn
(b) Rebbi Yonasan ben Asmai and Rebbi Yehudah ben Geirim went to take leave
of their Rebbe Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai, in the morning, and came and took
leave of him again in the afternoon. They explained to their astonished
Rebbe - that he himself had taught them that a Talmid who takes leave of his
Rebbe but remains overnight in town, is obligated to take leave of him again
in the morning. (Presumably, he was unaware that they had remained in town
- ... "u'le'Yisrael Amo" - that Hashem forgave them for eating on Yom Kipur.
- ... "le'David Avdo" - that Hashem had forgiven David for the sin of Bas Sheva.
(c) Rebbi Shimon learned this - from Shlomoh Hamelech, who sent the people
away on the eighth (the twenty-*second* of Tishri), and then again on the
twenty-*third* (Divrei-Hayamim 2).
(a) Rebbi Shimon sent Rebbi Elazar his son to his Talmidim for a Berachah -
because he considered them to be men of stature (wise men).
(b) They established the Pasuk ...
1. ... which says that one should weigh up the Mitzvos and perform the
larger ones - when there is *someone else* available to perform the smaller
ones - and the Pasuk that one should not weigh up Mitzvos, but perform
whichever Mitzvah comes one's way, be it small or large - when there is
*no-one* but oneself to perform it.
(c) They conferred upon him a strange-sounding string of blessings. When
they said ...
2. ... which writes (about Torah) "ve'Chol *Cheftzecha* Lo Yishvu Bah (from
which one can infer that Cheftzei Shamayim (i.e. Mitzvos) are equal to the
Torah and that one should therefore stop learning in order to fulfill them -
when there is *no-one* else to fulfil the Mitzvah on hand; and the Pasuk
"Kol *Chafeitzim* Lo Yishvu Bah" (even Cheftzei Shamayim) - when there *is*.
1. ... 'You should sow and not reap' they meant - that he should bear sons
who will not die in their (father's) life-time.
2. ... 'You should bring in and not bring out' - that he should bring in
daughters-in-law and that his sons who married them should not die in their
3. ... 'You should bring out and not bring in' - that when he bears
daughters and sends them away to get married, that his sons-in-law should
not die in his life-time, resulting in their daughters having to return
4. ... 'Your house should be destroyed and your inn settled' - that their
graves should not come into use, but that they should rather spend a long
time in this world (which is compared to an inn).
5. ... 'Your table should be confused' - that they should have many sons and
daughters sitting round their table.
6. ... 'You should not see a new year' - that they should not lose their
wives and have to spend the first year with another wife.
(a) In similar vein, when Rebbi Shimon ben Chalafta took leave of Rav, he
blessed Rav's son. When he said 'Don't embarrass and don't be embarrassed -
he blessed him that if he does not embarrass others, he will never be
(b) When his son complained about the insignificance of the Berachah - Rav
replied that he should not treat lightly a Berachah with which Hashem
Himself blessed Yisrael (implied by the repetition of the Pasuk "ve'Lo
Yevoshu Ami Le'olam").
(c) Our Mishnah permits a woman to adorn herself. The Beraisa explains that
this refers to three things: 'Kocheles, Pokeses u'Ma'avirah S'rak al
(d) 'Ma'avirah S'rak al Panehah' might also mean - something that she rubs
on her body to remove the pubic hair.
- 'Kocheles' means - painting her eyes blue to beautify them.
- 'Pokeses' - making a parting in her hair.
- 'Ma'avirah S'rak al Panehah' - painting rouge on her face to look more beautiful.
(a) When Rav Huna bar Chinena, contended that only a *young* woman is
permitted to adorn herself on Chol ha'Mo'ed, but not an old one - Rav Chisda
told him in no uncertain terms that the concession applied even to his
grandmother, and even if she was standing with one foot already in her
grave, because ...
(b) ... 'Bas Shitin ke'Bas Shis le'Kol Tivla Rihata' - a woman of sixty runs
to hear the ringing of the bells (i.e. she still remains a girl at heart)
just like one of six.
(c) Rebbi Yehudah forbids a woman to place lime on her face on Chol
ha'Mo'ed, because it makes her look currently ugly. The lime is to remove
facial hair and to give her face a red tone.
(d) Rebbi Yehudah himself qualifies his statement - confining the stringency
to a lime-pack that cannot be removed on Chol ha'Mo'ed; if it *can*, then he
concedes that it is permitted to apply it.
(a) In a Mishnah in Avodah-Zarah, Rebbi Yehudah permits claiming one's debts
from a gentile on the day of his festival, because it causes the gentile to
feel bad. According to the Chachamim - even though this may well be the
gentile's *initial* reaction, ultimately, he feels happy because he has
paid off his debt. Consequently, in which case, claiming one's debts from
gentiles on Chol ha'Mo'ed will be forbidden.
(b) Despite the facy that Rebbi Yehudah there does not take into
consideration the fact that the gentile will be happy afterwards, he does do
so in the case of a woman adorning herself on Chol ha'Mo'ed, according to
Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak - because most things that are permitted on Chol
ha'Mo'ed (and on Yom-Tov for that matter - such as cooking and baking) are
permitted on the grounds that in the end, it will be beneficial, even though
initially, it entails a lot of hard work).
(c) Ravina disagrees with this. According to him the reason that Rebbi
Yehudah in Avodah-Zarah permits claiming one's debts from a gentile on the
day of his festival is - because it causes him to feel bad - period.
(a) The poor would use lime to remove premature hair from their young
daughters, the wealthy, flour, and Kings - myrrh-oil.
Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak claimed that his daughter did not need smearing
with oil - because in his family, they did not drink beer.
(b) Some translate Shemen ha'Mor as 'Sateches'. The second explanation - oil
made from olives that have not grown to one third of their size.
(c) Besides a hair-remover - Shemen ha'Mor also gives the skin a good
(d) That Nochri accused Rav Bibi of killing his daughter - when he
attempted to copy Rav Bibi by smearing oil over the entire body of his
daughter (a fatal mistake, because Rav Bibi had smeared his daughter limb by
limb, and had subsequently received four hundred Zuz from her husband to be
when he engaged her to be married).