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Nazir, 4

1) ACCEPTING A PARTIAL NEZIRUS

QUESTION: The Mishnah teaches that when a person accepts upon himself to be a Nazir with regard to grapeseeds or grapeskins, all of the laws of Nezirus take effect and all of the prohibitions of Nezirus apply. The Gemara explains that Rebbi Shimon argues and says that a person does not become a Nazir until he says that he accepts all of the laws of Nezirus upon himself; if he accepts only part of those laws, then the Nezirus does not take effect at all. The Rabanan in the Mishnah derive their view -- that one becomes a Nazir whenever he accepts any of the laws of Nezirus -- from the verse that says, "He shall be a Nazir from wine (m'Yayin) and wine-brandy (v'Shechar)" (Bamidbar 6:3), implying that even by accepting upon himself one of the prohibitions of Nezirus he becomes a Nazir. Rebbi Shimon, on the other hand, learns a different Halachah from the extra word "v'Shechar" -- that word is teaching that a person is Chayav for entering the Beis ha'Mikdash while intoxicated only if he is intoxicated with wine.

The Gemara continues and says, "Alternatively, Rebbi Shimon does not hold of the principle of Isur Chal Al Isur, like Rebbi Shimon says that if a person eats Neveilah on Yom Kipur he is exempt from punishment for eating on Yom Kipur."

What does the concept of "Isur Chal Al Isur" have to do with our Sugya? Here, the Gemara is discussing only one Isur, the Isur of Nezirus. What is the second Isur that is taking effect upon a pre-existing Isur? What two Isurim are there?

In addition, why does the Gemara say that only Rebbi Shimon holds that a second Isur cannot take effect on another Isur? All of the Tana'im agree that an Isur cannot take effect on another Isur! Rebbi Shimon's opinion is unique only in that he holds that even an "Isur Kolel" or an "Isur Mosif" cannot take effect on a pre-existing Isur.

ANSWERS:

(a) TOSFOS (DH Rebbi Shimon) and the ROSH explain that the Gemara means to say that Rebbi Shimon holds that an Isur cannot take effect on an Isur when the second Isur is an "Isur Kolel." This means that even if the second Isur includes more objects than the first Isur, the second Isur still cannot take effect on the objects that were prohibited by the first Isur (but only on the other objects). The Rabanan hold that the second Isur does take effect on all of the objects, even those prohibited by the first Isur. How, though, is this related to the verse of "v'Shechar" and to our Sugya?

The verse is teaching that if a person made a Neder or a Shevu'ah not to drink wine, and then afterwards he accepted upon himself Nezirus, the Nezirus will take effect and he will be prohibited from drinking wine because of his Neder (or Shevu'ah) and because of the Isur of Nezirus, even though, normally, an Isur cannot take effect upon another Isur. The Rabanan do not need a verse to teach this because the Isur of Nezirus is an Isur Kolel, and thus the Isur of Nezirus will prohibit it from wine either way. Nezirus is an Isur Kolel because it also prohibits him from becoming Tamei to Mesim and from shaving his hair.

The KEREN ORAH finds support for this interpretation from the Gemara in Makos (22a). The Mishnah there says that if a person is both a Nazir and a Kohen and he plows a field that is a cemetery on a day that is both Shabbos and Yom Tov, then he could be Chayav for numerous sets of Malkus for his single act. The Gemara proves that the Mishnah holds like Rebbi Shimon who says that even an Isur Kolel cannot take effect on a previous Isur. The SHA'AGAS ARYEH (#60) asks that if the Mishnah holds like Rebbi Shimon, then how could a Kohen make himself a Nazir and be Chayav for becoming Tamei to Mesim because of the Nezirus? The Nezirus is a second Isur of Tum'ah and it should not take effect on the Isur Tum'ah of a Kohen! The KEREN ORAH points out that according to what Tosfos here writes, the question does not start -- even Rebbi Shimon agrees that Nezirus takes effect on a pre-existing Isur because of the Gezeiras ha'Kasuv of "v'Shechar!"

The logic of what the Torah is teaching through this Gezeiras ha'Kasuv, according to Rebbi Shimon, might be that, normally, an Isur Kolel cannot cause a new Isur to take effect where there is already an Isur, because the other Isurim that do take effect do not force the new Isur to take effect on the pre-existing Isur. For example, in a normal case of Isur Kolel, such as the Isur of Neveilah and the Isur of Yom Kipur, the Isur of Yom Kipur prohibits a person from eating all foods. The Rabanan say that since the Isur takes effect with regard to permitted foods, it takes effect with regard to Neveilah as well. Rebbi Shimon says that there is no need for the Isur of Yom Kipur to take effect with regard to Neveilah; it can take effect only with regard to permitted foods, and the Neveilah remains Asur only because of the Isur Neveilah. In the case of Nazir, though, the Isurim of a Nazir are linked to each other and interdependent because of the rule of "Ein Nezirus l'Chatza'in" -- in order for one Isur to take effect, they must all take effect. Therefore, when one accepts upon himself a full Nezirus, it *must* take effect on the Isur of wine as well in order for it to take effect on the Isur of Tum'ah and the Isur of shaving. Thus, the Isurim of Tum'ah and shaving pull along, so to speak, the Isur of wine with them so that it takes effect, even according to Rebbi Shimon.

However, the other Rishonim who offer different explanations might have rejected this explanation because the Gemara should not have emphasized the negative with regard to all other cases by saying that in all other cases an Isur does not take effect on another Isur (in lieu of a Gezeiras ha'Kasuv saying that it does). Rather, the Gemara should have emphasized the positive with regard to Nezirus -- that Rebbi Shimon needs a verse to teach that in the case of Nazir, an Isur *does* take effect on an Isur.

(b) The ROSH and RASHBA (Teshuvos 4:109) cite RABEINU TAM who explain that Rebbi Shimon learns from "v'Shechar" the rule that "Ein Isur Chal Al Isur." The verse is teaching that if a person made a Neder or Shevu'ah not to drink wine and then he became a Nazir, his Nezirus does not take effect.

The Rosh questions Rabeinu Tam's approach. Why must Rebbi Shimon learn that "Ein Isur Chal Al Isur" from "v'Shechar?" The Gemara in Chulin (101a) cites a different source to teach that "Ein Isur Chal Al Isur" according to Rebbi Shimon! The Rashba (Teshuvos) answers that the source quoted in Chulin teaches that a second Isur cannot take effect on a pre-existing Isur *which came about by itself*, such as the Isur of Yom Kipur taking effect on an Isur Neveilah. However, the verse here teaches that even if the first Isur is a self-imposed Isur (Neder or Shevu'ah), nevertheless the second Isur cannot take effect on it to prohibit it a second time. (The Gemara cites a case of one who eats Neveilah on Yom Kipur only as an example of Rebbi Shimon's opinion in other places, but that is not what is learned from this verse of "v'Shechar.")

The Rabanan, who argue with Rebbi Shimon, hold, according to Rabeinu Tam, that an Isur does take effect on another Isur when the first Isur is self-imposed. (The Rashba suggests further that perhaps these Rabanan hold that a second Isur can take effect on another Isur even when it is not self-imposed and even if it is not an Isur Kolel or Isur Mosif, in contradistinction to the more common opinion of the Rabanan.)

It is clear from the Rashba that he does not consider the Isur of Nazir to be an Isur Kolel with regard to a previous Neder or Shevu'ah not to drink wine. Why is it not an Isur Kolel? After all, the Nezirus is adding an Isur of Tum'ah and an Isur of shaving! (AVNEI MILU'IM, Teshuvah #15)

1. The AVNEI MILU'IM answers, based on TOSFOS in Yevamos (32b, DH Isur Kolel Hu), that an Isur can only be called an Isur Kolel if it is the *same Lav* that prohibits the objects that were heretofore permitted and the object that was heretofore prohibited. In such a case, the Isur will take effect on all the objects. In the case of Nazir, there are three different Lavim involved -- wine, Tum'ah, and shaving, and thus when the other Lavim take effect they cannot cause the Lav of drinking wine to take effect. (According to this, if one made a Neder not to eat grapeseed and then he became a Nazir, then the Nezirus *would* take effect because of Isur Kolel, according to the Rabanan.)

The Avnei Milu'im asks, however, that there is another Isur that encompasses all of the Isurim of Nazir: the Isur of "Lo Yachel Devaro," not to profane his word. *That* Isur should be an Isur Kolel! The Avnei Milu'im answers that the Isur of Bal Yachel applies only to the Isurim that one intended to create with his word. When the individual Isur of drinking wine does not take effect because Nezirus is not an Isur Kolel, then his word did not mean to include that Isur, and thus his word did not include the Isur of Bal Yachel for the Isur of wine either.

2. The RASHBA writes in his Teshuvah that the Isur of a Nazir drinking wine is an Isur Cheftza, like a Neder, and that is why it could prohibit him from drinking wine even if he made a Shevu'ah beforehand obligating himself to drink wine, because a Neder prohibiting the item of a Mitzvah can permit him to be Mevatel a Mitzvah, even though he is already sworn-in to observe the Mitzvah. This is what the verse of "m'Yayin v'Shechar" is teaching, like the Gemara says here (beginning of 3a).

However, the Rashba does not discuss the Isurim of Tum'ah and shaving. It would seem clear that these are not Isurim of Cheftza, for the person is not prohibiting any object with those Isurim, but rather he is prohibiting *acts* (becoming Tamei, shaving). Moreover, there is no Gezeiras ha'Kasuv to teach that these Isurim should take effect to be Mevatel a Mitzvah. (However, see MAHARIT cited by the Avnei Milu'im there, who suggests a possibility to explain how those Isurim are also Isurei Cheftza.)

Accordingly, the Rashba might hold that since the Isurim are intrinsically different, an Isur Cheftza cannot take effect through "Kolel" on an Isur Gavra. (M. Kornfeld)

3. The MINCHAS CHINUCH (#368) explains that since Nezirus cannot take effect in part (l'Chatza'in), the other Isurim cannot take effect until the Isur of wine takes effect. Therefore, there is no Isur taking effect that would cause the Isur of wine to take effect through "Kolel." (This is a Chidush in the definition of the principle that "Nezirus cannot take effect l'Chatza'in." The Minchas Chinuch is teaching that even if the person will have all of the Isurim of Nazir, it is not enough -- the Isurim must come about because of the Lav of Nazir and not because of a pre-existing Isur such as a Shevu'ah.)

(c) The MEFARESH, and as cited by the Rashba in the name of Rashi, explains that the Gemara is not trying to explain the verse of "v'Shechar" any longer. Rather, the Gemara is giving a new source for Rebbi Shimon's opinion in the Mishnah, and the source is from an analogy to Rebbi Shimon's rule that "Ein Isur Chal Al Isur." Just like a second Isur cannot take effect on a pre-existing Isur, so, too, and Isur of Tum'ah of Nezirus cannot take effect if the Isur of wine of Nezirus already took effect. It seems that Rashi is re-defining the case of our Mishnah. The Mishnah does not mean that he *either* made himself a Nazir from wine *or* from shaving, but rather that if he *first* made himself a Nazir from wine and then from shaving and from Tum'ah, then the Rabanan hold that the laws of Nezirus still apply, while Rebbi Shimon holds that the laws of Nezirus do not apply.

The Rashba wonders how this can be learned from an analogy to "Ein Isur Chal Al Isur." Here, we are discussing different Isurim altogether, the Isur of Tum'ah taking effect on the Isur of drinking wine! Moreover, according to both the Rabanan and Rebbi Shimon, how could the first Isur of wine alone take effect? Everyone agrees that "Nezirus cannot take effect l'Chatza'in!"

Perhaps the answer is that Rashi means as follows. According to the Rabanan, if one first makes himself a Nazir from wine and then later adds the rest of the Isurim of Nazir, then retroactively the Isur of wine will take effect since it now has become revealed that it is just a part of the Isurim of a full-fledged Nazir. (The Isur of wine is just extended a little longer back in time than the rest of the Nezirus.) Rebbi Shimon, though, says that the Isur of wine cannot take effect retroactively, because that Isur will not be an Isur of drinking wine alone, but it will be a *Nezirus* from drinking wine. Similarly, when he adds the Isur of Tum'ah, he is adding a *Nezirus* from Tum'ah l'Mesim. Just like Rebbi Shimon holds that an Isur cannot take effect on an Isur, so, too, a Nezirus cannot take effect on a pre-existing Nezirus, even if the pre-existing Nezirus is slightly different with different laws (i.e. a Nezirus from wine and not from Tum'ah).


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