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Nazir, 50

1) THE "NETZEL" OF AN ANIMAL

QUESTIONS: The Mishnah teaches that a k'Zayis of "Netzel" is Metamei b'Ohel ("Netzel" is the flesh of a corpse that dissolves into a putrid liquid and then coagulates). The Gemara asks whether the decomposing flesh of an animal has the status of Netzel to be Metamei. We know that the corpse of a Neveilah is Metamei through Maga and Masa. If the flesh of a Neveilah decomposes into "Netzel," will it be Metamei b'Ohel just like a k'Zayis of Netzel of a person? The Gemara asks that perhaps we only have a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai to be Metamei a Netzel that comes from a person, but not that which comes from an animal, or perhaps it does not make a difference whether it comes from a person or from an animal.

The Gemara goes on to say that according to the opinion that holds that when a Neveilah decomposes so much that it is not fit for a Nochri to eat, meaning that it is so disgusting that no person would eat it, then it is not Metamei. According to that opinion, it is obvious that the Netzel of an animal is Tahor. The question is only according to the opinion that says that decomposed flesh of Neveilah *is* Metamei even when it is not fit for a person to eat, as long as it is fit for a dog. According to that opinion, what will be the Halachah of the Netzel of an animal, which is also fit for a dog? Will that be Metamei or not?

There are a number of questions that we may ask on this Gemara.

First, why does the Gemara say that it is obvious that the Netzel of an animal is *not* Metamei according to the opinion that a Neveilah is Metamei only when it is fit for a Nochri to eat? A k'Zayis of Netzel that comes from a person is also not fit for a Nochri to eat, and nevertheless we find that the Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai says that it is Metamei! The same Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai might also be teaching that the Netzel of an animal is Metamei! If there is a possibility that there is no difference between man and animal with regard to Netzel and the Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai applies to animals as well, then the same question should apply even though the Netzel of an animal is not fit for a Nochri to eat!

Second, according to the other opinion that says that a Neveilah is Metamei as long as it is fit for a dog, why would we need a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai to teach us that the Netzel of an animal is Metamei? It should be Metamei simply because it is fit for a dog! In fact, the same question apples to the Netzel of a person -- why do we need a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai to tell us that it is Metamei? If it is fit for a dog, then according to this opinion that decomposed flesh is Metamei as long as it is fit for a dog, it should be Metamei because it is fit to feed to a dog!

Third, TOSFOS (DH Ad l'Ger) says that according to the first opinion that says that flesh is only Metamei when it is fit for a person, then even if we say that an animal does have "Netzel," nevertheless it will be Tahor since it is not fit for a Nochri to eat. What does that mean? If we say than an animal does have "Netzel," that means that there is a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai that an animal has Netzel and so it *will* be Metamei! Why is Tosfos saying that it will not be Metamei because it is not fit for a Nochri? In what sense could say that an animal does have Netzel even though it will not be Metamei? There is no point of Netzel other than the Tum'ah of Netzel! (ARZEI HA'LEVANON)

ANSWER: These questions are based on the understanding that the question of the Gemara is whether or not the same Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai which says that the Netzel of a person is Metamei also says that the Netzel of an animal is Metamei. However, the Gemara appears to be asking an entirely different question.

It is obvious that the Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai applies only to a person. The Gemara is asking, though, why a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai is needed to tell us that the Netzel of a person is Metamei. The first point that needs clarification is that the whole Machlokes concerning whether a Neveilah is Metamei when it is only fit for a Nochri, or even when it is fit for a dog, applies only to Neveilah and not to a person, like TOSFOS in Bechoros (23a) says. Tum'as Mes that comes from a person has nothing to do with whether the Mes is fit to be eaten by a person or for a dog. No piece of a Mes is fit to be eaten by a person. The laws of Tum'as Mes of a person apply even though, by definition, the body parts are not fit for human consumption. Rather, the Torah has decreed that these things are Metamei.

The question is only in the case of a Neveilah. Since a Neveilah is edible flesh which indeed *is* normally eaten, the Amora'im argue whether the Tum'ah of a Neveilah is dependent upon the Neveilah being an edible food. Is it only when the Neveilah is still an edible food for a person that it is Metamei, or is it sufficient that it be edible for a dog in order for it to be Metamei? Either way, it is clear that the Neveilah must remain in the category of food in order for it to be Metamei, in contrast to the Tum'ah which comes from a human body.

The Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai, therefore, that teaches that a k'Zayis of Netzel is Metamei is necessary even though human Netzel is edible for a dog. Nevertheless, since it is not the original form of flesh, and the Torah only says that flesh is Metamei, we might have thought that only what the Torah discusses is Metamei (i.e. flesh) and it has nothing to do with whether or not it is edible. Therefore, the k'Zayis of Netzel that is not in the same form of flesh perhaps is not Metamei. The Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai teaches that Netzel *is* Metamei in the case of a person.

This Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai was said only with regard to a person and not with regard to a Nochri, and the Gemara is clear about that point. The question of the Gemara is whether Netzel of an animal can be considered the same material as the Neveilah since it is still edible. According to the opinion that says that decomposing flesh is still considered to be Neveilah and can be Metamei as long as it is fit for a dog, since the Netzel is also fit for a dog is it considered to be the same entity as the flesh of an animal and is Metamei just like the flesh is Metamei? We would know that it is Metamei from logical grounds, without a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai. Or is Netzel a different from of decomposed flesh, and it is not the same form as flesh of Neveilah, and therefore it should not be able to be Metamei as a Neveilah? It might be edible like a Neveilah, but nevertheless it is not a Neveilah. That is the question of the Gemara.

According to this understanding, it is clear why Netzel of an animal is not Metamei according to the opinion that says that a Neveilah is Metamei only while it is fit for a Nochri -- it cannot be considered the same as a Neveilah since it is not edible for a Nochri. According to the opinion that says that as long as it is edible for a dog it is Metamei, it is possible to say that Netzel of an animal will also be Metamei, because it is edible for a dog. This is what TOSFOS (DH Ad l'Ger) means when he says that even if we say that an animal does have Netzel, it will not be Metamei according to the opinion that says that Neveilah must be fit for a Nochri in order to be Metamei. He means that even if we consider Netzel to be the same entity as the flesh of an animal, and thus logically it should be Metamei just like the flesh is Metamei, nevertheless since the flesh itself is not Metamei when it is not edible for a Nochri, similarly Netzel -- which is not edible for a Nochri -- is not Metamei.


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