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Prepared by P. Feldman
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Nedarim 39
1) A SICK PERSON THAT MAY NOT BENEFIT
(a) (Gemara) Question: Who may visit whom?
1. Suggestion: If Shimon may visit Reuven - he should
even be allowed to sit (since Shimon is doing a
(b) Answer #1A (Shmuel): Really, Shimon may visit Reuven; the
Mishnah is in a place where people receive wages for
visiting the sick and sitting, but not for standing.
2. Suggestion: If Reuven may visit Shimon - he should
be forbidden even to stand (for he benefits from
being allowed to walk in the house)!
1. Question: Why should the Mishnah deal with such a
(c) Answer #1B (As Shmuel said, Shimon may visit Reuven): He
may not sit because of a decree, lest he come to stay too
2. Answer: The Mishnah teaches, even where people take
money for visiting the sick, they may only take for
sitting, not for standing.
1. We see that R. Shimon Ben Elyakim (elsewhere) made a
similar decree, lest he stand too long.
(d) Answer #2 (Ula): Really, Reuven may visit Shimon; the vow
did not forbid Reuven from providing Shimon with
essentials to his life.
(e) Question: If so, he should be allowed even to sit!
(f) Answer: It is possible to stand (it is not essential that
(g) Question (Beraisa): If he got sick, he may visit him; if
his son got sick, he may inquire about his welfare.
(h) This fits well according to Ula - the vow did not forbid
Reuven (the visitor) from providing essentials to
Shimon's life (but there was no provision to allow
essentials for Shimon's son).
1. But according to Shmuel, the one that may not give
benefit is the visitor (Shimon) - it makes no
difference if Reuven is sick or Reuven's son!
(i) Answer: Shmuel admits that in the Beraisa, the visitor
may not get benefit; in the Mishnah, he said that the
visitor is the one that may not give benefit.
(j) Question: Why does Shmuel say that the Mishnah and
Beraisa deal with different scenarios?
(k) Answer (Rava): (The Beraisa can only be explained as
Ula;) the Mishnah forced Shmuel to explain differently.
2) KORACH'S REBELLION
1. The only reason to allow standing and forbid sitting
is when the visitor may not benefit the sick person.
(a) (Reish Lakish): "If they will die as normal people, and
the visitation of normal people" - this hints at the
Mitzvah of visiting the sick.
3) THE GREATNESS OF VISITING THE SICK
(b) Question: How is this?
(c) Answer (Rava): "If they will die as normal people" - they
are sick and bedridden, and people visit them - (this
will prove that) "Hash-m did not send me".
(d) (Rava): "If Hash-m will create a creation" - if Gehenom
was already created, fine; if not, Hash-m should create
(e) Objection (Beraisa): 7 things were created before the
world - Torah, repentance, the garden of Eden, Gehenom,
the throne of glory, the Beis ha'Mikdash, and the name of
1. Torah - "Hash-m acquired me, the beginning of his
(f) Correction: Rather, Moshe said 'If the mouth (of Gehenom)
was already created, fine; if not, Hash-m should create
2. Repentance - "Before the mountains were born, and
was hollowed out ... you return man to the breaking
point (and say, 'Return, men') ".
3. The garden of Eden - "Hash-m planted a garden in
4. Gehenom - "For arranged from yesterday, you entice".
5. The throne of glory - "Prepared is your throne, from
6. The Beis ha'Mikdash - "The throne of glory, elevated
from the first (the place of our Mikdash)".
7. The name of Moshi'ach - "His name will be forever
(before the sun, Yinon is his name)".
(g) Question: But "There is nothing new under the sun"!
(h) Correction: Rather, 'If the mouth is not close to here,
let Hash-m bring it close".
(i) Question (Rava): What is the meaning of "The sun, the
moon stood in Zvul (a level of Heaven)"?
1. The sun and moon are in Reki'ah (a lower level of
(j) Answer (Rava): They ascended to Zvul to petition Hash-m:
If you will stand up for Moshe, we will illuminate; if
1. Hash-m shot arrows at the sun and moon. Every day,
people bow to them, and they did not protest for
Hash-m's honor - but they stood up for the honor of
flesh and blood!
i. From then on, every day Hash-m shoots arrows
and spears at them and they illuminate - "They
go to the light of your arrows".
(a) (Beraisa): There is no measure to visiting the sick.
(b) Question: In what sense?
(c) Answer #1 (Rav Yosef): There is no limit to its reward.
(d) Objection (Abaye): To say that there is limit to the
reward of other Mitzvos?
1. (Mishnah): Be careful with a light Mitzvah as with a
severe one, for you do not know the reward of
(e) Answer #2 (Abaye): Even a great person should visit a
(f) Answer #3 (Rava): One should visit a sick person even 100
times in a day.
(g) (Rav Acha Bar Chanina): One who visits a sick person
alleviates 1/60th of his pain.
(h) Question (Abaye): If so, we should have 60 people visit a
sick person, and this will cure him!
(i) Answer (Rava): 1/60th is as the 1/10th of Rebbi (1/60th
of the remaining sickness is removed);
1. Only a person of the same Mazel removes 1/60th of
(j) (Beraisa - Rebbi): A daughter that is fed by the brothers
(after the father died) receives 1/10th of the estate
when she gets married.
(k) Question: If so, if a man left 10 daughters and a son,
the daughters will receive the entire estate!
(l) Answer (Rebbi): The 1st daughter to get married receives
1/10th of the estate; each subsequent daughter receives
1/10th of what remains.
1. If they come to get married simultaneously, we
calculate how much they would collectively receive
(if they came in succession - about 63%), and they
split this equally.