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Nedarim 51

NEDARIM 51 - dedicated anonymously in honor of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, and in honor of those who study the Dafyomi around the world.

1) BAR KAPARA MADE REBBI LAUGH AND DANCE

(a) Bar Kapara took a big basket, sealed it with tar and put it on his head; he asked Rebbi for the 40 measures of wheat that he lent him; Rebbi laughed.
1. Rebbi: I warned you not to make me laugh!
2. Bar Kapara: I meant, the 40 measures you owe me.
(b) Bar Kapara told Rebbi's daughter: 'Tomorrow I will drink wine as your father dances and your mother sings'.
1. Ben Elasha, Rebbi's son-in-law, was very wealthy; he invited Bar Kapara to a banquet in honor of the marriage of Rebbi's son, R. Shimon.
2. Question (Bar Kapara asked Rebbi): What is the meaning of the word To'evah (mentioned by homosexuality)?
i. Bar Kapara refuted every answer Rebbi gave.
ii. Rebbi: What do you say it means?
iii. Bar Kapara asked Rebbi to have his wife mix a drink for him; she did. He promised to answer if Rebbi will dance; Rebbi danced.
3. Answer (Bar Kapara): TO'Eh Ata BAH (you stray in it).
4. Question (Bar Kapara): What does Tevel (written by bestiality) mean?
i. Bar Kapara promised to answer if Rebbi's wife will mix another drink for him and Rebbi will dance again; they did.
5. Answer (Bar Kapara): Are TaVLin (spices) in it - why does a woman prefer such relations to human relations?
6. Question (Rebbi): What does Zimah mean?
i. Bar Kapara: If you do as before, I will tell you.
7. Answer (Bar Kapara): Zo MAh Hi (what is this?).
(c) Ben Elasha could not bear seeing Rebbi and his wife humiliated; he left with his wife.
(d) Question: Where do we see that Ben Elasha was wealthy (as mentioned above)?
(e) Answer (Beraisa): Ben Elasha did not squander his money for nothing; rather, to learn the haircut of the Kohen Gadol - "They will cut as spelt".
1. (Beraisa): It is cut as Lulianis.
2. Question: What is Lulianis?
3. Answer (Rav Yehudah): A beautiful haircut.
i. (Rava): Each hair ends at the root of the next hair.
2) COOKED DISHES
(a) (Mishnah): And in ha'Remutzah gourd ... (b) Question: What is ha'Remutzah gourd?
(c) Answer #1 (Shmuel): Gourd of Karkuzai (a place).
(d) Answer #2 (Rav Ashi): A gourd wrapped in REMeTZ (hot ashes).
(e) Question (Ravina - Beraisa): R. Nechemyah says, Aramis gourd is Egyptian gourd; it is forbidden to plant this with Greek or ha'Remutza gourd (for they are different species).
1. Rav Ashi's opinion is refuted.
(f) (Mishnah): One who vows not to eat things made in a pot is only forbidden to eat things that finish cooking in a pot;
(g) 'I will not taste what enters a pot' - he is forbidden everything cooked in a pot.
(h) (Gemara - Beraisa): If he forbade 'what enters a pot', he is forbidden even things cooked in a frying pan (which normally) are previously cooked in a pot.
(i) If he forbade 'what enters a frying pan', he is permitted things cooked in a pot (Ran - even though they are standing to finish cooking in a frying pan; Tosfos - even if it later was cooked in a frying pan - 'what enters' connotes the 1st cooking).
(j) If he forbade 'what is made in a pot', he is permitted in things made in a frying pan;
(k) If he forbade 'what is made in a frying pan', he is permitted things made in a pot.
(l) 'What enters an oven' - this only forbids bread; (m) 'All oven products', this forbids anything made in an oven.
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3) THE PRIMARY TYPE

(a) (Mishnah): 'From the pickled' -only pickled vegetables are included;
1. 'I will not taste pickled (food)' - all pickled foods are included.
(b) 'From the overcooked' - only overcooked meat is included;
1. 'I will not taste overcooked (food)' - all overcooked foods are included.
(c) (Gemara - Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Avya) Question: What if he said 'that is pickled'? 'That is overcooked'? 'That is roasted'? 'That is salted'?
1. These questions are unresolved.
(d) (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): 'From the roasted' - he is only forbidden roasted meat;
1. 'I will not taste roasted (food)' - this includes all roasted food.
(e) 'From the salted' - he is only forbidden salted fish;
(f) 'I will not taste salted (food)' - this includes all salted food.
(g) 'Fish, fishes I will not taste' - he is forbidden big and small fish, salted and unsalted, raw and cooked;
1. He is permitted minced fish and fish brine.
(h) One who vows from Tzachanah (tiny fish, or fish parts) is forbidden to have minced fish, but may have brine and fish oil;
1. One who vows from minced fish is forbidden to have brine or fish oil.
(i) (Gemara): (Beraisa - R. Shimon Ben Elazar): 'I will not taste Dag (fish - masculine)' - big fish are forbidden, small fish are permitted; 'I will not taste Dagah (fish - feminime)' - big fish are permitted, small fish are forbidden;
(j) 'I will not taste Dag, (or) Dagah' - big and small fish are forbidden.
(k) Question (Rav Papa): Presumably, R. Shimon Ben Elazar's source that Dag means big fish is "Hash-m summoned a big Dag to swallow Yonah";
1. But it also says, "Yonah prayed to Hash-m from the innards of the Dagah"!
(l) Answer #1 (Abaye): He was swallowed by a big fish, and later was spit up and swallowed by a small fish.
1. Objection: "The Dagah in the river died" - can we say, only the small fish died?!
(m) Answer #2: Rather, Dagah refers to both large and small fish; by vows, we go after the way people speak.
(n) One who vows from Tzachanah ...
(o) Question (Ravina): What if he vows from Tzichin? (Ran - does this include brine and fish oil? Tosfos - does this include minced fish?)
1. This question is unresolved.
(p) (Mishnah): One who vows from milk is permitted to have Kum (water which separates from the milk); R. Yosi forbids;
1. One who vows from Kum is permitted to have milk.
(q) Aba Sha'ul says, one who vows from cheese is forbidden both salted and unsalted;
(r) One who vows from meat is permitted to have gravy and Kipah (tiny pieces); R. Yehudah forbids.
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