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Pesachim 47
1) "YOM TOV SHENI SHEL GALUYOS" IN YERUSHALAYIM
QUESTION: The Gemara cites a Mishnah which states that when the two days of
Rosh Hashanah fall immediately prior to Shabbos (that is, on Thursday and
Friday), the Lechem ha'Panim is eaten in the Mikdash on the eleventh day
after being baked. (That is, from when it was baked -- Wednesday, the day
before Rosh Hashanah, until the Shabbos of the following week, when it is
eaten, is eleven days).
RASHI (DH Sh'nei Yamim Shel Rosh Hashanah), at the end of his comments, asks
why does the Beraisa say two days of Rosh Hashanah, and not two days of any
Yom Tov (that is, "Yom Tov Sheni Shel Galuyos")? Rashi answers that "at the
time of the Lechem ha'Panim, there was no second day of Yom Tov."
What is Rashi talking about? Our discussion involves the Lechem ha'Panim in
the Beis ha'Mikdash! There are *never* two days of Yom Tov in the Beis
ha'Mikdash other than on Rosh Hashanah -- even today only one day of Yom Tov
is observed in Yerushalayim! What does Rashi mean by saying that "in the
*times of the Lechem ha'Panim* they did not have two days of Yom Tov in the
Beis ha'Mikdash?" (TZELACH)
ANSWERS:
(a) The CHASAM SOFER writes that when in his youth he brazenly suggested an
answer to the TZELACH, who nodded his head in affirmation. He answered that
it could be construed that there sometimes were two days of Yom Tov even in
Yerushalayim. During the time that the leading Torah sages were outside of
Israel, the sages of Chutz l'Aretz would accept the testimony of witnesses
who saw the new moon to establish the new month (Berachos end of 63a). Since
it took time for the messengers of Beis Din to bring news of the new month
to Yerushalayim, the people of Yerushalayim would have to keep two days of
Yom Tov, out of doubt (just as cities outside of Israel kept two days of Yom
Tov when the Beis Din in Yerushalayim established the new month)!
Why then *weren't* there two days of Yom Tov in Yerushalayim in the "times
of the Lechem ha'Panim?" Perhaps, suggests the Chasam Sofer, the verse
"v'Alisa El ha'Makom" comprises a requirement that as long as there is a
Beis ha'Mikdash, the Sages of Eretz Yisrael must establish the beginning of
the new month, no matter who lives in Chutz l'Aretz.
(b) RAV YOSEF SHAUL NATANSOHN notes (in a comment on the famous Teshuvah of the CHACHAM ZVI #167 -- who reaches the opposite Halachic conclusion), suggests that we see from here that two days of Yom Tov were always kept by the people of Yerushalayim! Tosfos (Pesachim 14a DH Shtei) explains that since people from many different locales would gather in Yerushalayim, the city would always keep the most stringent customs that were common. If so, an argument could be made that they kept two days of Yom Tov in Yerushalayim, following the more stringent custom of Chutz l'Aretz, since people from Chutz l'Aretz were constantly there. Rashi had to explain that at that time of Lechem ha'Panim, there was not yet a rabbinical enactment to keep two days of Yom Tov outside of Israel (Beitzah 5b), rather two days were kept in outside of Israel out of doubt. Since there was not yet a "Minhag" to keep two days of Yom Tov in Chutz l'Aretz, Yerushalayim kept only one day. (The comments of Rav Y.S. Natansohn can be found at the end of most prints of the Chacham Zvi.)
(c) Perhaps when Rashi says that "there were not two days of Yom Tov *in the
time* of the Lechem ha'Panim," he does not mean that in the historical era
of the Beis ha'Mikdash there were not two days of Yom Tov. Rather, Rashi
means to say that when discussing *the duration of time* from when the
Lechem ha'Panim was baked until it was eaten, *it is not relevant* to
discuss two days of any Yom Tov other than Rosh Hashanah, for the very
reason we mentioned in our question -- because such a thing does not exist
in Yerushalayim. (That is, Rashi is to be read as follows: "When discussing
the duration of time of the Lechem ha'Panim, there is no [pertinence to] two
days of Yom Tov.")
Why did Rashi find it necessary to point this out if it is obvious? Rashi
wants to explain why *other* Mishnayos do not discuss "Yom Tov Sheni Shel
Galuyos" but refer to two days of Rosh Hashanah instead. For instance, the Mishnah in Shabbos (137a) tells us that Milah is sometimes performed 12 days
after a birth when two days of Yom Tov of "Rosh Hashanah" intervene between
the birth and the Bris. Does this law apply to when two days of any other
Yom Tov intervene as well, or do we just go ahead and circumcise the baby on
the second day of Yom Tov, on every other Yom Tov besides Rosh Hashanah?
This is actually the subject of a debate among the Rishonim. Most rule that
there is no difference between Rosh Hashanah and any other Yom Tov. The
TASHBETZ (3:284, cited by TSHUVOS CHASAM SOFER, YD 250) infers this to be
the opinion of Rashi, as well, since Rashi here implies that had another Yom
Tov intervened between the baking and eating of the Lechem ha'Panim, it
would have had to have been baked *before* that Yom Tov. The Rambam (Hilchos
Milah 1:15), on the other hand, differentiates between Rosh Hashanah and
other Yomim Tovim, based on the wording of the Mishnah in Shabbos.
Rashi in our Sugya is attempting to rebut the Rambam's proof from the
wording of the Mishnah that discusses Milah. He points out that there is a
specific reason why *this* Mishnah does not mention Yom Tov Sheni of
Galuyos. Since this Mishnah had to two days of "Rosh Hashanah," the other
Mishnayos that discuss something (Milah) that is delayed due to two days of
Yom Tov it also mentions Rosh Hashanah, even though the Halachos of Milah
apply equally to Yom Tov Sheni Shel Galuyos. (M. Kornfeld)
47b
2) PERMITTING PLOWING ON YOM TOV BECAUSE OF "HO'IL"
QUESTION: The Gemara, attempting to prove that we do not utilize the
principle of "Ho'il," cites a Mishnah. The Mishnah states that someone will
be Chayav and receive Malkus for doing Charishah (plowing a field) on Yom
Tov. If there is such a principle of "Ho'il," though, then one should not
get Malkus, because "Ho'il" tells us that "since he could have done it in
another, entirely permissible way, doing it this way is also permitted."
When plowing on Yom Tov, one should not get Malkus because since it would
have been permitted had he been plowing the earth in order to cover the
blood of a bird that was slaughtered (that is, in fulfillment of the Mitzvah
of "Kisuy ha'Dam"). According to the principle of "Ho'il," even when there
is no blood to cover it should be permitted mid'Oraisa to plow, since blood
*might* be brought to that place later in the day. From the fact that the
Mishnah states that one gets Malkus for Charishah we see that we do not
utilize the reasoning of "Ho'il."
What does this have to do with the principle of "Ho'il?" "Ho'il" means that
a Melachah is permitted on Yom Tov if it is possible to benefit from that
Melachah later on Yom Tov. Even if he does not actually benefit from the
Melachah, as long as it is *possible* to benefit from it, the Melachah is
permitted. Here, though, when it comes to Charishah, even if it is permitted
to do Charishah in order to cover the blood of a bird, that applies only
when blood is actually present at the moment that he plows the earth -- at
which time the Aseh of covering the blood overrides the Lo Ta'aseh of
plowing. (Our Gemara apparently maintains that the injunction against doing
Melachah on Yom Tov is only a Lo Ta'aseh, and not a Lo Ta'aseh together with
an Aseh as the Gemara in Beitzah 8b concludes -- see following Insight (b)).
However, if the Lo Ta'aseh (of plowing) is done at a different time than the
Aseh (of Kisuy ha'Dam), then it is *not* permitted to plow, since a
condition for "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh" is that the Lo Ta'aseh be done at the
same time as the Aseh. (For example, cutting off a leprous mark of Tzara'as
which is on the place of the Milah in order to fulfill the Mitzvah of
Milah.) One may not do the Lo Ta'aseh in order to fulfill an Aseh later on
that day. If so, even if blood is brought to that place later in the day,
the plowing was done in a prohibited manner; what effect should Ho'il have
on whether or not Malkus is to be administered! There is nothing at all that
could happen at a later time that could make this Charishah permissible!
(RABEINU DAVID, MAHARAM CHALAVAH, CHIDUSHEI HA'RAN; also TUREI EVEN, cited
by GILYON HA'SHAS)
ANSWERS:
(a) The TUREI EVEN answers that it must be that the Gemara here is relying
on another line of logic to permit plowing. There is another Heter for doing
Melachah on Yom Tov, other than "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh." That is the Heter
called "Mitoch." The principle of Mitoch does not permit doing an action now
based on what *will occur* in the future, like "Ho'il," but it works with
the present. Any Melachah which can sometimes be performed on Yom Tov for
Ochel Nefesh (food preparation), may be performed on Yom Tov for *any*
purpose. Similarly, perhaps "Mitoch" tells us that a Melachah which may be
done on Yom Tov because of "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh" (such as doing Charishah
when there is actually blood to be covered) may be done under any
circumstances, even when there is no Mitzvah to be fulfilled.
Consequently, any Charishah that benefits a person on Yom Tov is Mutar
because of "Mitoch." If it does not benefit the person until after Yom Tov,
though, it may not be performed on Yom Tov (just as it is not permissible to
cook on Yom Tov for a meal that will be eaten after Yom Tov). That is where
Ho'il comes in. If we accept the principle of Ho'il, any Charishah that
could *possibly* benefit a person on Yom Tov should be Mutar because of
"Ho'il," i.e. it is possible that later on Yom Tov a bird will be
slaughtered and sand will be needed to cover its blood. The sand turned over
by the plow will then come in handy on Yom Tov. Following the principle of
Ho'il, even if no bird is later slaughtered, the person who plowed has not
transgressed an Isur.
(b) The logic of the Turei Even is problematic because "Mitoch" means that
the Torah never prohibited on Yom Tov all Melachos that *could* be used for
Ochel Nefesh. In this case, though, Charishah is only permitted because of
Aseh Docheh Lo Sa'aseh. There is no reason to assume that the Torah permits
it under all circumstances!
Perhaps the reason why an Aseh is not Docheh a Lo Ta'aseh when they do not
occur simultaneously is because we are afraid that one might do the Lo
Ta'aseh and then later he will not do the Aseh. That is, mid'Oraisa one may
do a Lo Ta'aseh in order to fulfill an Aseh at a later time. It is only
prohibited either because of a Safek, i.e. the possibility that the Aseh
will not be fulfilled later, or because of an Isur d'Rabanan. However, if a
person indeed fulfills the Aseh later, then perhaps he will have corrected
the Lo Ta'aseh retroactively, mid'Oraisa, by performing the Aseh. If so, our
Gemara is straightforward: since one might later find the blood of a bird
and use the dirt that he plowed for the Mitzvah of Kisuy ha'Dam, he does not
transgress the Melachah d'Oraisa of Charishah and thus he should not get
Malkus. (M. Kornfeld)
(c) These two answers are valid for RASHI (DH Dam Tzipor) who explains that
the application of "Ho'il" here would permit plowing now because of the
possibility that *later in the day* one will find it necessary to cover the
blood of many birds and Chayos. However, TOSFOS (DH a'Charishah) says that
the application of "Ho'il" in our Sugya is that if there *would have been*
birds' blood on the ground at the time of the Charishah, then the Charishah
would have been Mutar because of "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh," because then the
Aseh and the Lo Ta'aseh would have indeed occurred simultaneously. What does
that have to do with Ho'il?
Perhpas Tosfos understands the Gemara the way that RABEINU DAVID and the
CHIDUSHEI HA'RAN explain (in the name of the RAMBAN). Although there is no
blood on the ground at the moment that one pushes the plow into the earth,
in the fraction of a second between the time that the plow pulls up the
earth and the time that the clod of dirt falls down to the side of the plow,
perhaps someone will come and slaughter a bird there. In such a case, the
Kisuy ha'Dam will be considered as being done at the same time as the
plowing, since one action of plowing accomplishes both the Aseh (Kisuy
ha'Dam) and the Lo Ta'aseh (Charishah). Therefore, "Ho'il" indeed applies,
since the act of Charishah could become Mutar based on what happens after
(that is, a split second after) the act.
(NOTE: Answer (a) of the following Insight also answers the question posed
in this Insight, although the Rishonim consider that entire approach
somewhat forced.)
3) "HO'IL" PERMITTING MORE THAN ONE MELACHAH AT A TIME
The Gemara challenges the assumption that Charishah would be permitted
because of "Ho'il" and asks, "Is Ketishah permitted on Yom Tov?"
Why does the Gemara assume that Ketishah is *not* permitted? It should be
permitted because of "Ho'il," just like the Gemara said about Charishah!
ANSWERS:
(a) TOSFOS (DH Charishah, citing Rashbam) says that indeed, the Gemara never
assumed that Charishah is permitted because of "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh."
Rather, it thought that it is permitted because when one is plowing in order
to cover the blood of a bird, it is a Melachah sh'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah!
One is digging in order to obtain the dirt (for Kisuy) and not to obtain the
hole.
That is how the principle of "Ho'il" here applies -- since the dirt is fit
for covering a bird's blood, therefore it is considered as though one wants
the dirt that he is now plowing and not the hole. Ketishah, on the other
hand, is a Melachah she'Tzerichah l'Gufah when done in order to cover the
blood, because one needs to crumble the dirt in order to spread it on the
blood!
(This explanation is problematic, as MAHARAM CHALAVAH points out, since
Ho'il should not be able to make the plowing into a Melachah she'Einah
Tzerichah l'Gufa, if the person who is plowing actually *intends* to soften
the earth in order to plant. Ho'il does not change a person's intentions!)
(b) RABEINU TAM (cited by Tosfos) says that the Gemara certainly knows that
Ketishah is not permitted, and furthermore, it knows that Charishah is not
permitted either. That is, the principle of "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh" does
not apply to either of those Melachos, because the Isur of doing Melachah on
Yom Tov is both an Aseh and a Lo Ta'aseh. "Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh" can only
be applied to permit Charishah of Kil'ayim, or on Shevi'is.
That is what the Gemara means to ask when it says, "Is Ketishah permitted on
*Yom Tov*?" (The Gemara means to include Charishah as well in its question -
- that is, it could have also questioned Charishah on Yom Tov directly,
without mentioning the Melachah of Ketishah.)
(c) The RIVA cited in Tosfos Rabeinu Peretz and in the Chidushei ha'Ran
suggests that when the Gemara says that Charishah is permitted because of
"Aseh Docheh Lo Ta'aseh," the Gemara does not mean to say that it is Mutar
l'Chatchilah to do Charishah on Yom Tov, because the Isur Melachah of Yom
Tov is both a Lo Ta'aseh (do not do Melachah on Yom Tov) and an Aseh (rest
on Yom Tov). An Aseh (covering the blood) is not Docheh a combined Aseh and
Lo Ta'aseh. Rather, the Gemara means that even though it is forbidden to
plow, one should not get *Malkus* for Charishah, because even a Lo Ta'aseh
combined with an Aseh are pushed aside for the sake of an Aseh when,
b'Di'eved, the act was already done. Even though one transgressed the laws
of Yom Tov, one will not receive Malkus for it. (In other words, when we say
that "Ein Aseh Docheh Aseh v'Lo Ta'aseh," that is with regard for it to be
Mutar l'Chatchilah to do. But "Aseh *Docheh* Aseh v'Lo Ta'aseh" with regard
to receiving Malkus.)
However, now that an added Isur of Ketishah must be done in order to exempt
the person plowing from Malkus, Ho'il can no longer be applied. Ho'il
applies only if there is a *permitted* way to exempt one's self from Malkus
by doing another act in the future, but not if Malkus can be prevented
through the transgression of an Isur Torah (as suggested by MAHARAM
CHALAVAH). After one plows, he can only exempt himself from Malkus by
performing Ketishah, a prohibited act. (That is, Ketishah is prohibited even
in order to perform Kisuy ha'Dam, just a Charishah is prohibited
l'Chatchilah, since Yom Tov is an Aseh and Lo Sa'aseh.) Therefore, the
principle of Ho'il does not apply. (M. Kornfeld, based on the Riva cited
here)
(Alternatively, the Gemara is asking that Charishah should not be permitted
because an Aseh can only be Docheh the Malkus of a *Lav and an Aseh*, but it
cannot be Docheh the Malkus of *two Lavim* and an Aseh.
Or perhaps, since one must still do Ketishah in order for the dirt to be
soft enough to cover the blood, it emerges that the Charishah certainly is
not being done *at the time* of the Aseh (Kisuy ha'Dam) -- RAMBAN, cited by
RABEINU DAVID -- it is not clear how the Ramban understood the Gemara's
answer to the question of Ketishah that "it is being done kil'Achar Yad.")
(d) TOSFOS RABEINU PERETZ says that the Gemara means that since Ketishah is
also Asur, and one must do both acts -- Charishah and Ketishah -- in order
to cover the blood, permitting it would require that a *double "Ho'il"* be
utilized, and we do not rely on a double "Ho'il." (See Insights to 46b:2)
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