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PESACHIM 101 - dedicated by Uri Wolfson in honor of his Chavrusa, Rav
Mordechai Rabin of Har Nof.
1) KIDUSH BIMKOM SEUDAH
(a) [Rav] Those who recite Kidush in the Synagogue have fulfilled
their Kidush obligation but would still recite HaGafen over wine.
2) SHINUI MAKOM
(b) [Shmuel] They have not even fulfilled their Kidush obligation.
(c) Question: According to Rav, why recite Kidush at home?
(d) Answer: To be Motze his household.
(e) Question: According to Shmuel, why recite Kidush in the
(f) Answer: To be Motze the guests in residence.
(g) Shmuel is consistent with his position elsewhere that Kidush must
be recited in the place of the meal.
1. The students thought that Shmuel's position restricts moving
from house to house, but allows moving within one house.
2. R. Anan reported that Shmuel would repeat Kidush if he moved
even within the house.
3. In the cited incident we see that R. Huna also holds that
Kidush is only Bimkom Seudah.
4. Abaye reported that Rabah also ruled this way.
5. Question: But this is not one of the three occasions where
Rabah ruled like Shmuel (he otherwise followed Rav)?!
(i) We may detach Tzitzis for placement on another garment.
6. Answer: He followed Rav's stringencies but not Rav's
(ii) One may kindle one Chanukah candle from another.
(iii) One may drag a bed, without intending to make a rut.
(a) [R. Yochanan who holds that they need not even recite HaGafen
over wine at home] is consistent with his position elsewhere
[that a change of place does not warrant a new Brachah Rishonah].
(b) Question: But the Bereisa teaches that change of place *does*
warrant a new HaGafen?!
(c) Answer: This refutes R. Yochanan.
(d) It was reported in the name of R. Huna that Shinui Makom warrants
a new Brachah only when moving from house to house, not within
the same house.
(e) It was reported that a Bereisa supports R. Huna's qualification.
(f) Question: Did R. Huna, then, teach a Bereisa?
(g) Answer: R. Huna had not heard that Bereisa.
(h) R. Chisda taught another qualification, that the new Brachah
Rishonah is only required with foods which do not require their
Brachah Acharonah in their place.
1. Question: Why?
(i) R. Sheshes maintained that he *always* must recite a new Brachah.
2. Answer: He is [mentally] attached to his original meal.
(j) Question on R. Chisda: We learned from a Bereisa that one *would*
have to recite a new Brachah even for those foods which the
Brachah Acharonah must be recited in their place!?
1. The case of the Bereisa involved those who, in the midst of
a meal, got up to greet a Chasan or Kalah.
2. They need not make Brachos Acharonos on their way out, nor
Brachos Rishonos upon their return.
3. The Bereisa qualifies- that is only if they left someone by
the meal, otherwise they *would* need to make new Brachos.
4. We are presumably dealing with foods which require their
Brachah Acharonah be made in their place, yet they would
have to make new Brachos unless they left an invalid in