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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous dafPesachim 33
(a) Rebbi learns from a Gezeirah-Shavah "Chet" "Chet" from Terumah, that
Me'ilah be'Mezid is Chayav Misah. But from the same Gezeirah-Shavah we
should learn that Me'ilah, like Terumah, is only Chayav when there is a
k'Zayis - so, how can we establish the Beraisa (which considers Me'ilah more
stringent because it carries a Chiyuv Misah), by *less* than a k'Zayis?
(b) Rav Papa answers that Rebbi perhaps holds like Aba Shaul - who considers
the criterion of Chiyuv by *Terumah*, a Perutah, even if it is less than a
k'Zayis, in which case, he will apply the same conditions to *Me'ilah*,
thereby resolving the above explanation.
(c) And this proves that Rav Papa must have retracted from his original
stance - that Aba Shaul requires both a Shaveh Perutah and a k'Zayis.
(a) Mar B'rei de'Rabana establishes the case where Me'ilah is Chayav Misah
and other Mitzvos are not, by 'Eino Miskaven' - with regard to Shabbos,
someone who intended to cut something that was *detached*, and he
inadvertently cut something that was *attached*, he is Patur, because it is
not included in 'Meleches Machsheves', and from "Asher Chata Bah" by other
Mitzvos. (See Tosfos DH 'Niskaven', who establish the case when he meant to
cut something that he *believed* to be detached, and then after picking it
up, he discovered that it had actually been attached.
(b) The case by Me'ilah is - when he intended to pick up some *Chulin*
shearings of wool to use, but inadvertently picked up shearings that were
*Hekdesh*. Me'ilah is more stringent in this case - because the Torah writes
"ve'Chat'ah bi'Shegagah", no matter how.
(c) According to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, one will be Chayav in the
previous case, even by other Mitzvos - because his intention to cut renders
it is included in 'Meleches Machsheves' and in "Asher Chata Bah".
(d) The case where Me'ilah is more stringent than other Mitzvos, according
to him - is when he intended to pick up something that was Hekdesh, and he
inadvertently put his hand into a jar of Hekdesh oil, where he will be
Chayav (even though he had no intention of anointing his hand at all);
whereas if he meant to *pick up* something that was detached, and he
inadvertently *detached* something that was *attached*, by Shabbos and by
other Mitzvos he will be Patur.
(a) We learn from the Pasuk "Reishis Degancha ... *Titen Lo*" - 'Lo, ve'Lo
le'Oro'. In other words, Terumah does not take effect if it was separated
initially from a fruit that was not fit to eat, only to burn - i.e. if it
was Chametz at the time when it was designated.
When Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak said 'bi'Gezeiras Irin Pisgama, u've'Ma'amar
Kadishin She'ilta' - he was referring not to angels, but to the Talmidei-
Chachamim, who are compared to angels.
(b) When the Beraisa says 'Ein Tormin min ha'Temei'ah Al ha'Tehorah, ve'Im
Taram be'Shogeg, *Terumaso Terumah*' - it is referring to fruit that had a
time when it was Tahor, whereas the Derashah of 'Lo ve'Lo le'Oro' pertains
only to fruit that had always been Tamei (i.e. if it became Chametz whilst
still attached to the ground).
(c) If the wheat became Chametz between the time it was picked and the
'Digun' - the Terumah is effective (though the reason for this is unclear).
(d) be'Shogeg' in the above Beraisa means that he was unaware that the Tevel
(a) 'she'Shireha Nikarin le'Yisrael' - implies that the Terumah given to the
Kohen is the first, and that the remainder is recognizable as having become
permitted to the Yisrael. But if someone designates Terumas Chametz, even
according to Rebbi Yossi Hagelili, nothing has become permitted; the Tevel
was Mutar be'Hana'ah, and what remains is also Mutar be'Hana'ah, but not
(b) According to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak - the Terumah will not be
effective even if the crops became Chametz *after* they were detached.
(a) Rav Acha bar Rav Ivya quoting Rebbi Yochanan, says that if grapes become
Tamei, one may press them less than a k'Beitzah at a time, and the wine will
be Kasher for the Nesachim - because he holds 'Mashkin Mifkad Pekidi' (the
wine contained inside the grapes is considered as if it was deposited there
- and is not considered an intrinsic part of the grapes).
(b) If there was exactly a k'Beitzah of grapes - the wine would also be
Kasher for the Nesachim.
(c) Rebbi Yochanan said specifically *less* than a k'Beitzah - since the
Mishnah in Taharos only permits the wine Bedieved; Lechatchilah, it is
forbidden to press them, whereas Rebbi Yochanan is informing us what the Din
will be if someone comes to ask Lechatchilah.
(a) Less than a k'Beitzah of food cannot transmit Tum'ah - because the Torah
writes "Asher Ye'achel", from which Chazal derive that food that can be
eaten in one go can transmit Tum'ah (but not less); and we no for a fact
that the human throat can hold the maximum of a chicken's egg. (Note: As far
as *receiving* Tum'ah is concerned, Rashi begins here by saying that even
less than a k'Beitzah of food *can* receive Tum'ah. He concludes however,
that he heard that it *cannot* - see Tosfos DH le'Eimas'.)
(b) The minimum Shiur for a liquid to transmit Tum'ah - is a Revi'is
(c) According to Rav Chisda - the wine contained inside the grapes is
considered an intrinsic part of the grapes, in which case, it will have
become Tamei together with the grapes, and pressing them less than a
k'Beitzah at a time will not, of course, remove that Tum'ah.
(d) Rav Chisda will explain the Mishnah in Taharos 'Tamei Mes she'Sachat
Zeisim va'Anavim, k'Beitzah Mechavenes, Tehorim' - by grapes that were not
yet Huchshar Lekabel Tum'ah. Consequently, when the first drop emerged from
the grapes (rendering them Muchshar), only less than a k'Beitzah remained,
too small a Shiur to become Tamei.
(a) If 'Mashkei Mifkad Pekidi', then why would the Beraisa state that
berries or grapes that became Tamei do not have a Heter Achilah? Why can
they not be pressed less than a k'Beitzah at a time?
(b) Even if we were to hold 'Mashkei Mivli Beli'i', says Rava, the Beraisa
would nevertheless be justified in stating that berries or grapes that
became Tamei do not have a Heter Achilah - since it is forbidden to retain
them because of Takalah (as we learnt above, on Daf 20b).
(c) The Beraisa nevertheless permits the use of Terumah bread and oil that
became Tamei, as fuel - because it is possible to throw the bread in the
wood-store among the pieces of wood, where it will become dirty and
unappetizing; and to place the oil into ugly vessels, with a similar effect.
(d) Rebbi Yochanan permits using wheat kernels of Tamei Terumah as fuel -
because one can first burn them and then throw them in the wood-store, where
they will become dirty and unappetizing; Rav Huna forbids it, because he is
afraid that, by the time one has executed the *two* requirements, he may
come to eat them.