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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafSukah 42
SUKA 42 (42nd of Omer/27 Iyar) - Dedicated by Gitle Bekelnitzky in honor of
the 1st yahrzeit of her father, Zev ben Ephraim v'Chaya Krause.
1) R. YOSI EXEMPTS FROM A CHATAS ONE WHO CARRIES A LULAV
(a) (Abaye) R. Yosi's exemption applies only prior to
fulfilling the Mitzvah.
2) OTHER EXAMPLES OF R. YOSI'S PETUR FOR TA'AH BIDVAR MITZVAH
(b) Question: But there is never a point of carrying prior
to fulfilling the Mitzvah, since one is Yotze as soon
as one picks it up!?
(c) Answer (Abaye): R. Yosi was speaking where he picked it
up upside down.
(d) Answer (Rava): R. Yosi was speaking where one took the
Lulav by means of a Keli.
1. Question: But Rava holds that indirect Lekichah is
2. Answer: That holds only in a respectable manner
(like draping one's hand with a cloth).
(a) (R. Huna) R. Yosi also exempted one who ate an Olah
thinking it was a Chatas.
3) MISHNAH: PROTECTING THE LULAV
1. Question: That is not news, that is identical to
the Petur of our Mishnah!?
(b) Question: But in the Beraisa R. Yosi teaches that one
who accidentally slaughters an unchecked Tamid is
2. Answer: We might have limited the Petur of Ta'ah
Bidvar Mitzvah to where he is presently fulfilling
a Mitzvah (such as Netilas Lulav, but not eating
the Olah, which is not a Mitzvah at all).
(c) Answer: That is exceptional as it is close to Meizid
(as that Beraisa has been qualified as speaking where
he negligently took the animal from the unchecked pen).
(a) A woman may return the Lulav to its water on Shabbos.
4) WOMEN AND LULAV
(b) (R. Yehudah) It may be placed back in its water on
Shabbos, but no water may be added, while on YomTov
water may be added and on Chol HaMoed the water may be
(c) A boy who knows how to wave the Lulav is obligated.
(a) Question: Is it not obvious that she can handle the
5) THE OBLIGATIONS OF A CHILD
(b) Answer: We might have prohibited her handling of the
Lulav since she is not obligated it its waving it might
be Muktzeh for her.
(a) The Beraisa lists the obligation point for Lulav,
Tzitzis, Tefilin, Torah and Shema.
1. Question: What does his father teach him?
(b) The Beraisa lists when a child's body does not render
Tumah, when his hands do not create Tumah.
2. Answer: Torah Tzivah and the first Pasuk of Shema.
(c) When doubts arise, a child who can answer when asked is
Tameh in Reshus HaYachid and Tahor in Reshus HaRabim.
(d) If he is established in Nesi'as Kapayim he may be given
(e) If he is able to control the knife, he may slaughter
(when he is under adult supervision- R. Huna).
Hadran Alach Perek Lulav HeGazul
(f) Once he can eat a KeZayis of grain he discharges are
malodorous and Tefilah must be distanced from them
(assuming that he can eat the KeZayis within Achilas
Peras- R. Chisda).
(g) (R. Chiya b.R. Yeiva) One must distance oneself in
prayer from an adult's discharges even if he presently
cannot eat a KeZayis within Achilas Peras (Pasuk).
(h) Once a child can eat a KeZayis of roasted meat he is
included in the Korban Pesach.
1. (R. Yehudah) Once he can differentiate between
edibles and non-edibles.
2. He throws away pebbles but takes nuts.
*****PEREK LULAV V'ARAVAH*****
1) MISHNAH: THE FREQUENCIES FOR THE MITZVOS OF SUKOS
(a) Lulav and Aravah are taken six or seven days (depending
on when Shabbos falls).
(b) Hallel and Simchah are on all eight days (including
(c) Sukah and Nisuch HaMayim are all seven days.
(d) Instruments, like the Chalil, are used for five days of
Simchas Beis HaShoevah, (or six, if the first day is
(e) The Lulav is taken seven days when the first day is
Shabbos, while if it is on a different day of the week
the Lulav is only taken six days (not on Shabbos Chol
(f) The Aravah is taken for seven days when the seventh day
(Hoshana Rabah) is Shabbos (otherwise six days).
(g) The Lulavim were brought Erev Shabbos to the Mikdash
and were received by the Chazanim and placed on the
Itztaba (while the elders used the Lishkah).
(h) The People were taught to relinquish their ownership of
their Lulavim in favor of whomever picked up that Lulav
the next day.
(i) The dangerous scuffle which ensued in the Mikdash when
people went to claim a Lulav led Beis Din to order
people to wave the Lulav at home, instead.