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by R. Nosson Slifkin
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) CONDUCT DURING FAMINE
(a) (R. Yehudah citing Rav) Anyone who deprives himself of
food in years of famine is saved from unusual forms of
death, as alluded to in a Pasuk.
2) REWARD AND PUNISHMENT
(b) (Resh Lakish) It is forbidden to engage in marital
relations during years of famine, as we see that Yosef
only had children before the famine.
(c) (Beraisa) Childless people may engage in marital
relations during famine.
(d) (Beraisa) If the community is in distress, and someone
separates himself from them, his two escorting Malachim
place their hands on his head and say that he will not
live to see the salvation of the community.
(e) (Beraisa) When the community is in distress, a person
should not say that he will go home, eat and enjoy his
1. Concerning such people, who say "eat and drink for
tomorrow we die," the Pasuk says that their sin is
only cleansed through death.
(f) Anyone who afflicts himself along with the community
merits seeing the salvation of the community.
2. Such happens to people who at least acknowledge that
they will die; but with wicked people who don't even
admit to that, the Pasuk says that even Tzadikim
3. Rather, a person should afflict himself in sympathy
with the troubles of the community.
4. We find this with Moshe, who sat on a stone rather
than on a chair, to show empathy with the plight of
the Bnei Yisrael.
(g) A person need not be concerned that no one will testify
about his doing so, as the Pasuk says that even his walls
and ceiling-beams will testify.
1. (D'bei R. Shila) His two escorting Malachim testify
2. (R. Chidka) His Neshamah testifies for him.
3. (Others say) His limbs testify for him.
(a) The Pasuk of "the G-d of integrity" means that just as
Hashem exacts retribution from Resha'im in the next world
even for minor sins, He exacts retribution from Tzadikim
in this world for minor sins.
3) THE VALUE OF FASTING
(b) "Without injustice" means that just as He rewards
Tzadikim in the next world even for minor mitzvos, He
also rewards Resha'im in this world for minor mitzvos.
(c) "He is righteous and just" means that when a person dies,
a complete account of his deeds is listed to him, and he
admits to them, signs to them, and accepts the justice of
(a) (Shmuel) Anyone who fasts is called a sinner.
(b) He holds like the Tana of the following Beraisa:
1. (R. Eliezer haKafer citing Rebi) The Pasuk refers to
the Nazir as having sinned, because he deprived
himself from wine.
(c) (R. Elazar) The Pasuk calls him "holy."
2. If he is called a sinner just for abstaining from
wine, how much more so someone who abstains from all
1. If he is called holy just for abstaining from wine,
how much more so someone who abstains from all food.
i. Question: How does Shmuel account for the Pasuk
calling him holy?
ii. Answer: That refers to his hair being forbidden
iii. Question: How does R. Elazar account for the
Pasuk saying that he has sinned?
iv. Answer: That refers to a Nazir who became
v. Question: Surely R. Elazar said that a person
should treat his insides as holy and not
deprive them of anything!?
4) SPONTANEOUS FASTS
(d) (Resh Lakish) Such a person is considered a Chasid.
vi. Answer: That was referring to a person who
finds fasting overly difficult.
(e) (R. Sheshes) A Talmid Chacham who fasts might as well be
doing so because a dog ate his food.
(f) (R. Yirmiyah bar Aba) The extra restrictions of community
fast only apply in Bavel to Tishah b'Av.
1. (Citing Resh Lakish) A Talmid Chacham may not fast, as
it detracts from his studies.
(a) (R. Ze'ira citing R. Huna) If an individual accepts a
fast, even if he ate and drank all night, he says Aneinu
the next day.
(b) If he slept through the next night without eating, he
does not say Aneinu on the next day.
(c) Question (R. Yosef): Does R. Huna hold that a spontaneous
fast is invalid, or does he hold that a spontaneous fast
is valid, but Aneinu is not said for it?
(d) Answer (Abaye): He holds that a spontaneous fast is valid
and one *does* recite Aneinu for it; the difference here
is that the fast was not declared in advance.
(e) Mar Ukva was unable to answer the following questions in
1. Is a spontaneous fast valid?
(f) At the Beis ha'Midrash, he was answered:
2. Is a jug that has been used to store wine of non-Jews
forbidden for usage?
3. Which garments did Moshe wear while performing the
initiation of the Mishkan?
1. A spontaneous fast is valid, and one says Aneinu.
2. The jug is permitted for use after twelve months.
3. Moshe wore a white linen robe.
i. (R. Kahana) He wore a white linen robe without
a hem (to remove suspicion of theft).