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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) MISHNAH: THE KETORES
(a) They bring out the Kaf and the Machtah, from which he
removes a Melo Chofnav and places it in the Kaf.
2) THE KAF AND MACHTAH
(b) The Chafnayim varied according to the size of the Kohen.
(c) This was its measure.
(d) He then took the Machtah of coals in his right hand and the
Kaf of Ketores in his left (to the Kodesh HaKodoshim).
(a) Question: We learned in the previous Mishnah that he went up
to the Mizbeach with the Machtah (already in hand)!?
3) THE SONS OF KIMCHIS
(b) Answer: That was the Machtah for the coals, and now they
brought him a Machtah of Ketores (as in the Beraisa).
(c) Question: Why does he need a Kaf on Yom Kipur?
(d) Answer: It was otherwise impossible.
1. He cannot make two trips.
(e) Question: How can he place the less important "stranger"
(Machtah) in his right hand and the "citizen" (Ketores) in
2. He would have no hands free to put down the Machtah.
3. It is inappropriate for him to use his teeth.
4. Thus we learn from the Nesi'im who used a Kaf.
(f) Answer: The Machtah was heavier than the Ketores (and we
continue to do so even in the exceptional case that the
Kohen was large enough to scoop a very large Chafnayim).
(g) R. Yishmael, the son of Kimchis, would scoop four Kav of
Ketores and boast that his mother excelled the others
(either the cereal she ate or the 'select' Zera [as R. Avahu
taught by resolving the two different occurrences of
(a) One Yom Kipur R. Yishmael b. Kimchis became Tamei from the
spittle of a gentile, and his brother, Yeshvav took his
place, thus two of the sons of Kimchis merited the office.
4) THE SIZE OF THE KOMETZ
(b) The next time this happened, his brother Yosef took his
(c) In the end all seven of her sons served as Kohanim Gedolim.
(d) She credited her success to her modesty, while the Chachamim
indicated that others had done similarly but had not merited
(a) BeKumtzo teaches us not to make a fixed measure for the
5) TAKING THE KOMETZ
(b) Question: What about making such a measure for the Chafinah?
1. Does BeKumtzo only apply to the Kometz; or
(c) Answer: The Mishnah teaches "so is its measure."
2. Does Melo connect the Chafinah to the Kometz?
1. This appears to permit making a measure for Chafinah.
(d) Question: Then it seems that he repeated the Chafinah?!
2. No, it means that he measured it the same way (again)
inside the Kodeshei Kodoshim.
(e) Answer: It could mean to permit making a measure (and the
interpretation could be pushed back and forth).
(f) Alternate Answer: 'Its measure' means that he must take
precisely a Chafnayim-full, not more nor less.
(a) The Beraisa understands Melo Kumtzo to teach that:
1. It may not be full to overflowing.
2. It may not be only on his fingertips.
3. It must be a full fistful in his hand, closing three
fingers around it.
(b) When he must take the Kometz from the Minchas Machavas and
Marcheshes he must use his thumb and pinky to clear the
overflow from Birutzin (this is the most difficult Avodah to
get precisely correct).
6) RAV PAPA'S QUESTIONS ABOUT KEMITZAH AND CHAFINAH
(c) Question: But we learned that Melikah and (the second)
Chafinah are the most difficult!?
(d) Answer: This is *one of* the most difficult.
(e) Question: What is the status of the flour found between his
clenched fingers (that which is not clearly within or
(f) Answer: It is a Safek and he offers the Kometz first, and
then he offers the flour between his fingers.
1. He cannot offer the doubtful flour first since it might
impair the proper measure of the Kometz.
(g) Question: But it is prohibited to bring the doubtful flour
after the proper Haktarah was done!?
2. We learned that such impaired Shirayim do not allow for
the Kometz to be brought.
(h) Answer: He brings the doubtful flour as though it were wood.
1. This is supported by the teaching of R. Eliezer:
(i) Question: But according to Rabanan (who prohibit bringing
the leftovers even as wood), how will he offer the doubtful
2. After an offering the leftovers cannot be brought as
that Korban, but they may be brought as wood.
(j) Answer: Let the Kemitzah then be performed by heavy Kohanim
whose fleshy fingers do not create this doubtful flour.
(k) If so, then R. Eliezer would require the same.
(a) Question: What is the status of the inter-finger flour of a
Melo Chafnav (perhaps Birutzin are acceptable by Chafinah)?
1. This would seem to hinge on the same Gezeirah Shavah
(Melo) that prohibits Birutzin by Kemitzah!
(b) Answer: Teiku.
2. His question, rather, was whether unintended "taking"
is valid and may be brought (Melo Chafnav) or not
(c) Question: Would a fingertip or upward Kemitzah be considered
"as a common person would scoop a Kometz?" What of a
(d) Answer to all three: Teiku.
(e) Question: Would a fingertip, upward or sideways Chafinah be
considered its usual manner? What if he scooped with each
hand separately and then brought his hands together?
(f) Answer to all four: Teiku.