POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafYoma 49
YOMA 49-50 (6 & 7 Adar) were dedicated by Harav Avi Feldman & family in
memory of his father, the Tzadik Harav Yisrael Azriel ben Harav Chaim
(Feldman) of Milwaukee (Yahrzeit: 6 Adar)
1) R. SHEISHES AND HOLACHAH WITH THE LEFT HAND
(a) Question: But the Beraisa specifically teaches that Holachah
(together with Kabalah and Zerikah) with the left hand is
2) USING THE CHAFINAH AFTER THE KOHEN DIES
(b) Answer: Teyuvta.
(c) Question: But we know that R. Sheshes was aware of this
Beraisa, as he cited this very Beraisa as a question on R.
(d) Answer: He asked R. Chisda from this Beraisa after it had
been pointed out to him by the questioners.
(e) Question: But R. Chisda supported himself from a Pasuk (that
Holachah is Kesheirah BeZar)!?
(f) Answer: The Zar only served to hold the blood, not to carry
it at all.
(g) Question (R. Papa): Would it be permitted for one Kohen to
do the Chafinah and place it into the hands of the Kohen
Gadol (are both VeLakach and BeHeivi required, or is a
(h) Answer: Teiku.
(a) Question (R. Yehoshua b. Levi): If the Kohen Gadol dies
after placing the flour into the Kaf, may his replacement
use his Chafinah?
1. (R. Chanina) See the questions of the earlier ones!
(b) Answer (R. Papa relating to R. Yehoshua's original query):
It depends on whether the Kohen Gadol must make a second
2. Question: But it seems that R. Chanina was older than
R. Yehoshua b. Levi (since the latter turned to the
former who permitted drinking Shachalayim on Shabbos)!?
i. Drinking should be clearly permitted (as we
learned from the Mishnah)?!
3. Answer: We see from R. Yehoshua's use of the title
Rebbi that R. Chanina must have been his senior (and R.
Chanina meant to point out that the later scholars
asked like the earlier ones).
ii. Rather, he permitted pounding it and drinking it.
(1) Question: If we are speaking of danger, then
this is not news; if not, then how could it
(2) Answer: It was a situation of danger, but he
was asking for medical advice.
(3) Question: Why ask this of R. Chanina?
(4) Answer: He was an expert, as indicated by his
claim regarding the fatality rate of an
injury from a mule.
i) Question: But there are survivors!?
ii) Answer: He was speaking of the live
iii) Question: But we see those injuries
iv) Answer: He was referring to a red mule
with white hooves whose injury does not
4. Question: But we find that R. Chanina was *not* in
doubt regarding the use of the Chafinah.
i. He taught that the replacement Kohen must
slaughter a new Par as the Pasuk implies "BePar
VeLo BeDamo Shel Par."
5. Answer: We must explain R. Chanina's comment regarding
R. Yehoshua's question as making two points:
ii. He also taught that the Chafinah done before the
Shechitah is meaningless (thus clearly implying
that the replacement Kohen may not use the dead
i. R. Yehoshua's question implies that he holds (not
like me, R. Chanina) "even with the Dam Par."
ii. His question also echoes those (earlier) who argue
1. If he does, then reusing the previous Kohen's Chafinah
should be fine.
(c) (R. Huna) The opposite is the case since then it is *surely*
lacking a Chafinah since his hands are not identical (and
the question of reusing the Chafinah is only if there is
*not* a second Chafinah)!
2. If not, then it is a good question!
(d) We see from our Mishnah (VeKach Hi Midasah) that there is a
(e) Not necessarily (the phrase in the Mishnah may only permit
making a Midah or require an exact measure).
(f) We see, then, from a Beraisa which details the procedure
(and its difficulty!) of the second Chafinah that, indeed,
there is are two.
3) USING THE BLOOD OF THE PAR AFTER THE KOHEN DIES
(a) Question: May the replacement Kohen use the Dam Par of the
first (based on how to interpret Par)?
(b) Answer: R. Chanina holds *not* with its Dam; Resh Lakish
holds *even with* its Dam; R. Ami holds *not* and R. Yitzhok
Nafcha holds *even with*.
(c) Question (R. Ami of R. Yitzhok Nafcha): If you were correct,
then the appointees to a Korban Pesach should be able to
withdraw until Zerikah (not Shechitah as in the Mishnah)?!
(d) Answer: Korban Pesach is different (based on the Pasuk).
(e) Question (on the *even with* position): If you were correct,
then the Mishnah should allow Pidyon even with a slaughtered
Seh (yet the Mishnah restricts this along with other
marginal sheep, e.g. Tereifah, Kilayim, etc.)?!
(f) Answer: Pidyon is different (it is linked to Pesach).
(g) Question: Then the link should extend to all details of the
Pesach applying to Pidyon Peter Chamor!?
(h) Answer: The repetition of Tifdeh gives more options by
(i) Question: Then the options should include those things which
the cited Mishnah had just restricted!?
(j) Answer: If we would be *that* inclusive, then the link of
Seh would lose its function.