POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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(a) Question: We have an indication (from his teaching regarding
a Korban Pesach during the year) that R. Chisda does *not*
employ the perspective of Ho'il, contrary to what we learned
regarding Shechutei Chutz!?
2) THREE APPROACHES TO AKIRAH
(b) Answer: R. Chisda taught that a Korban Pesach during the
year does not incur the Chiyuv of Shechutei Chutz if the
Shechitah is LeShem Pesach (since it could not be brought
1. If the Korban Pesach were slaughtered Shelo Lishmo (ie.
as a Shelamim), he would incur the Chiyuv (since it
could be brought as a Shelamim).
(c) Rabah b. Simi taught that the contradiction above was not in
R. Chisda but in Rabah (the answer remains the same).
2. We may infer that if he slaughtered the Korban Pesach
with no special intent that he would be Patur.
3. Question: Why is that so; Ho'il should give it a status
of Shechutei Chutz since it *could have* been brought
Shelo Lishmo as a Shelamim!?
4. Answer: There is no comparison, since the Korban Pesach
needs to be removed from its Lishmo state (Akirah)
whereas the Seir of Yom Kipur needs no Akirah to be
used as a Seir for Musafin.
(a) R. Dimi cites R. Yirmiyah as saying that he is Patur even if
he does the Shechitah Shelo Lishmo.
3) SHECHUTEI CHUTZ AFTER THE HAGRALAH
(b) When asked for a rationale R. Yirmiyah explained that Akirah
only works in the Azarah (such that this Korban remains a
Pesach Shelo Bizmano and is hence Patur from Shechutei
(c) Ravin cites R. Yochanan as teaching that in all instances he
(d) Question: Could this mean that he is Chayav even if the
Shechitah is Lishmo!?
1. But we learned that a Korban Shelo Bizmano is Patur.
(e) R. Ashi cites Ravin/R. Yochanan as saying Chayav (like our
2. The Mishnah lists those Korbanos which are Mechusar
Zman and Patur (whose owners are not yet ready to bring
such a Korban) and which cannot convert into Nedavos.
3. Those Korbanos which can convert to Nedavos are Chayav
if, qualifies R. Chilkiyah b. Tuvi, the Shechitah was
Lishmo, but Shelo Lishmo is *Patur*.
4. Question: But Lishmo by Ashamos should be Chayav on
account of Ho'il!, as by the Korban Pesach?
5. Answer: An Asham requires Akirah while a Pesach does
*not* require Akirah as it automatically converts to a
(f) R. Yosef MiDifti cites them as saying Patur, as he holds
that a Pesach *does* require an Akirah to become a Shelamim,
and he is Patur because Akirah outside of the Azarah is not
an Akirah (and he argues with R. Chilkiyah b. Tuvi who holds
that Akiras Chutz *is* an Akirah (as in d.3. above).
(a) As taught above, after the Hagralah he is only Chayav on the
(b) The Beraisa cites the Pasuk dealing with Shechutei Chutz and
(says that the word Korban teaches that the Isur is only
Kodashim BaChutz, not Chulin BiFnim and then) asks:
(c) Question: Perhaps the word Korban comes to add Kodeshei
Bedek HaBayis to those Kodoshim for which one would be
Chayav for Shechutei Chutz?
(d) Answer: The words VeEl Pesach Ohel Moed... restrict the Isur
to those Korbanos which *could* be brought there, and that
which could not be brought to the Pesach Ohel Moed is Patur.
(e) Question: But we should then not exclude the Seir
HaMishtaleach which is brought to the Ohel Moed for
Hagralah, and one should be Chayav for it!?
(f) Answer: LaShem restricts the Isur to Korbanos whose Avodah
is only LaShem (and not the Seir HaMishtaleach).
(g) Question: But we find that LaShem is used to *include* the
(h) Answer (Rava): Each instance of LaShem must be understood in
1. Where El Pesach (by Shechutei Chutz) includes; LaShem
(i) Question: Are we to infer that a Seir HaMishtaleach would be
Kadosh even as Mechusar Zman, had the Pasuk not taught
2. Where Isheh (by Mechusar Zman) excludes; LaShem
1. But that would mean that one of the animals in the
Goral was not fit to be brought LaShem.
(j) Answer (R. Yosef): The Beraisa which employs LaShem to
include the Seir HaMishtaleach in Mechusar Zman is Chanan
HaMitzri (who holds that a replacement Seir HaMishtaleach is
brought without Hagralah).
2. We know that both must be fit LaShem!?
(k) Question: While it is true that Chanan HaMitzri allows the
use of Dam which was Dechuyah (temporarily unusable), but
who says that he allows the Seir to come into service
(l) Answer: Rather, the Beraisa is R. Shimon who teaches that
the replacement can be brought without Hagralah.
(m) Alternate Answer (Ravina): The Beraisa speaks of a case
where the Seir HaMishtaleach contracted a Mum after the
Hagralah and its substitute does not then require Hagralah.
1. Question: Whence that a Mum invalidates the Seir
2. Answer: The Beraisa analyzes the words in the Pasuk
dealing with Mumin and finds two words combining to
teach that both Mechusar Zman and Ba'al Mum will
invalidate the Seir HaMishtaleach.