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1) THE PLACE AND DIMENSIONS OF THE "MIZBE'ACH"
(a) Answer #3 (Rav Yosef (he retracted from his first answer)
- Beraisa): "Va'Yachinu ha'Mizbe'ach Al Mechonosav" - (in
the days of Ezra) they realized how large the Mizbe'ach
2) REQUIREMENTS OF THE "MIZBE'ACH"
1. Question: "Ha'Kol bi'Chsav mi'Yad Hash-m Alai
Hiskil" (Hash-m taught David the dimensions of the
Mikdash - any change requires (a procedure
including) the Urim v'Tumim, which was not in Bayis
(b) Question: Granted, those who built Bayis Sheni could tell
where to rebuild the Heichal, they could see the
foundations of the (destroyed) walls;
2. Answer (Rav Yosef): They expounded "Zeh Hu Beis
Hash-m ha'Elokim v'Zeh Mizbe'ach l'Olah" - the
Mizbe'ach is like Beis Hash-m (the Heichal), i.e. it
is (at most) 60 Amos long.
1. How did they know where to put the Mizbe'ach?
(c) Answer #1 (R. Elazar): They saw (with Ru'ach ha'Kodesh)
the Mizbe'ach built (in its proper place) and (the angel)
Micha'el offering Korbanos on it.
(d) Answer #2 (R. Yitzchak Nafcha):They saw the ashes of
Yitzchak (Hash-m considers it is as if Avraham
slaughtered and burned him like an Olah) in its place.
(e) Answer #3 (R. Shmuel bar Nachmani): Everywhere else in
the Mikdash, they smelled Ketores; in that place they
smelled (burning) meat.
(f) (Rabah bar bar Chanah): Three prophets (Chagai, Zecharyah
and Malachi) accompanied them from Bavel - one told them
that the Mizbe'ach may be up to 60 Amos, one told them
where the Mizbe'ach should be, one told them that we may
bring Korbanos (if the Mizbe'ach is in the proper place)
even without the Beis ha'Mikdash.
(g) (Beraisa - R. Eliezer ben Yakov): Three prophets
accompanied them from Bavel - one told them that the
Mizbe'ach may be up to 60 Amos and where it should be,
one told them that we may bring Korbanos even without the
Mikdash, and one permitted them to write the Torah in
Ashuris (the letter forms we use today).
(a) (Beraisa): The following are Me'akev the Mizbe'ach - it
must have Keranos, a ramp, a Yesod, and it must be
1. The following are not Me'akev - its length, width
(b) Question: What is the source of this?
(c) Answer (Rav Huna): Wherever it says "ha'Mizbe'ach", it is
(d) Question: If so, Rebbi should say that Kiyur (pictures)
is Me'akev, and R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah should say that
the Sovev is Me'akev!
1. (Beraisa - Rebbi): "V'Nasatah Osah Tachas *Karkuv*
ha'Mizbe'ach" - this refers to pictures on the top
half of the Mizbe'ach;
(e) Answer: Indeed, they say this!
2. R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah says, it refers to the
1. (Beraisa): The day that a Tzeduki poured the Nisuch
of water (of Sukos) on his feet (because Tzedukim
denied this Mitzvah, everyone threw rocks (and
Esrogim) at him), the Mizbe'ach became dented, they
sealed it with salt;
(f) (Beraisa): The Karkuv is between the Keranos, where the
Kohanim walk, an Amah wide.
2. This did not Machshir Avodah, it was in order that
the Mizbe'ach should not appear deficient.
3. The Mizbe'ach is Pasul unless it has Keranos, a
ramp, a Yesod, and is square.
4. R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah says, it must also have a
Sovev. (Likewise, Rebbi would require pictures.)
(g) Objection: The Kohanim do not walk between the Keranos
(if so, they could not turn the corner)!
(h) Correction: Rather, (the Karkuv is between the Keranos)
*and* the Amah-wide walkway of the Kohanim.
(i) Question: But it says "Tachas Karkuvo mi'Lmatah Ad
Chetzyo" - this shows that it was on the outside of the
(j) Answer (Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak): There were two
Karkuvim - one was (a protrusion around the Sovev) for
decoration, the other was a rim around the walkway (which
was sunken) in order that the Kohanim should not slip.
(k) (Beraisa): The following are not Me'akev - its length,
width and height.
(l) (R. Mani): However, they cannot be less than Moshe's
(m) Question: What was the length (and width, for it was
square) of Moshe's Mizbe'ach?
(n) Answer (Rav Yosef): It was an Amah.
1. People laughed at this - it says "Chamesh Amos Orech
v'Chamesh Amos Rochav Ravu'a Yihyeh"!
2. Abaye: Perhaps you mean, the place of the Ma'arachah
was an Amah (the Keranos occupied one Amah on each
side, and also the walkway)!
3. Rav Yosef: A great person (like yourself)
understands what I meant - those who laughed are
like Benei Keturah (inferior descendants of
(o) R. Tarfon was teaching, his nephews were listening
dumbly. He (mis)cited a verse (to break their silence)
'Vayosef Avraham Vayikach Ishah u'Shmah Yuchni'.
3) THE RAMP
1. His nephews: It says "Keturah"!
(p) (Abaye bar Huna): The woods Moshe made for the Ma'arachah
were one square Amah (each), the thickness was like a
Machak (the rod used to even off a measure) of a Se'ah
(it has a standard thickness - if it is too heavy (or
light), it will sag too much (or not enough) into the
2. R. Tarfon: You are like Benei Keturah.
(q) (R. Yirmeyah): This refers to a heaping (slightly more
than an) Amah (Tosfos; our text, Rashi - less than an
Amah, so it does not stick out into the walkway).
(r) Objection (Rav Yosef - Beraisa): "Al ha'Etzim Asher Al
ha'Esh Asher Al ha'Mizbe'ach" - the wood may not leave
the Ma'arachah (Tosfos - which is only one Amah! Rashi
(according to Shitah Mekubetzes) - the wood may be a full
Amah. Rashi (according to Tzon Kodoshim) - Rav Yosef
supports R. Yirmeyah, the wood may not exceed one Amah.)
(a) (Mishnah): The ramp was on the south of the Mizbe'ach, it
was 32 Amos long and 16 Amos wide.
(b) Question: What is the source of this?
(c) Answer #1 (Rav Huna): "V'Shachat Oso Al Yerech
ha'Mizbe'ach Tzafonah" - the leg of the Mizbe'ach is in
the north, it follows that its face is in the south.
1. Question: Perhaps the leg and face are both in the
(d) Answer #2 (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): "U'Ma'alosehu Penos
Kadim" - its ramps (are situated so that when you) turn
to (your right, this is to the) east.
2. Answer (Rava): When a person lies down, his leg and
face are in opposite directions.
3. Question (Abaye): When a person sits, his leg and
face are in the same direction!
4. Answer (Rava): It says "Ravu'a" (this is close to
5. Question: We need this to teach that it must be
6. Answer: If so, it should have said 'Meruba'.
7. Question: If the Torah wanted to teach that we
consider a person lying down, it should have said
8. Answer: It says "Ravu'a", which is close to 'Ravutz'
and 'Meruba', allowing us to learn both.
(e) Question: Perhaps when you turn to your left, this is
(f) Rejection (Rami bar Yechezkeil - Beraisa): Shlomo's Yam
(Mikvah) rested on 12 supports - "Shelosha Ponim Tzafonah
u'Shelosha Ponim Yamah... Ponim Negbah... Ponim
Mizrachah" (the verse lists them in the order of one who
starts in the north and circles around to his right);
1. This teaches that whenever we circle around, it is
to the right.
(g) Question: The verse teaches about the supports, we cannot
learn anything else from it!
(h) Answer: It was not necessary to repeat "Ponim" each time,
the repetition teaches that we always circle to the
(i) Question (R. Shimon ben Yosi ben Lekunya): Did R. Shimon
say that there is a space between the ramp and the
(j) Answer (R. Yosi): Don't you agree? It says "V'Asisa
Olosecha ha'Basar veha'Dam" - just as blood of an Olah is
thrown on the (corners of) the Mizbe'ach, also the meat
is thrown (across the space, to the fire).
(k) Question (R. Shimon ben Yosi): Perhaps (there is no
space), he stands next to the Ma'arachah and throws the
(l) Answer #1 (R. Yosi): Obviously, he throws to a part of
the Ma'arachah which is aflame (the verse need not teach
this) - therefore, the verse teaches that he throws over
(m) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): Just as the blood is thrown over
the ground (without anything in between), also the meat.
(n) (Rav Yehudah): Two small ramps emerged from the main
ramp, one led to the Yesod, the other to the Sovev;
1. They did not touch the Mizbe'ach, they were
separated by a hair's breadth, for it says "Saviv"
(it must be possible to put something around the
Mizbe'ach, i.e. nothing touches it externally.)
(o) The Torah must say "Saviv" and "Ravu'a":
2. (R. Avahu): We learn this from "Ravu'a".
1. If it only taught "Saviv", one might have thought
that the Mizbe'ach may be round;
(p) (Mishnah): The ramp and the Mizbe'ach (together) occupied
2. If it only taught "Ravu'a", one might have thought
that the Mizbe'ach may be long and thin (as long as
it is rectangular);
(q) Question: Together they occupy 64! (Each of them was 32
(r) Answer: The ramp overlaps one Amah that the Yesod juts
out, and one Amah of the Sovev.
(s) (Rami bar Chama): All ramps in the Mikdash rise one Amah
for every three Amos (horizontally; Shitah Mekubetzes -
along the diagonal), except for the ramp to the
Mizbe'ach, which rose one Amah for every three and a half
Amos and a one and a third fingers (it was less steep in
order that Kohanim should not slip, for they had to
ascend carrying limbs, which are heavy);
1. 'Fingers' refers to Zachrusa (the thick part of the
thumb; some texts - Zutrasa, i.e. pinkies, a sixth
of a Tefach).