Review Questions: Shabbos 76-80

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         DAFYOMI REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI

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Shabbos 76

1)
(a) The minimum Shiur of straw for which one is Chayav for carrying out
on Shabbos, is enough to fill the mouth of a cow; straw of legumes, to
fill the mouth of a camel; of stubble, enough to fill a lamb's mouth,
and grass, to fill the mouth of a kid-goat.   Why is the Shiur for
carrying out ...
1. ... straw of legumes enough to fill the larger mouth of a camel and
not the smaller one of a cow?
2. ... stubble enough to fill the larger mouth of a lamb, and not the
smaller one of a kid-goat?
(b) Grass, on the other hand, is fit for a lamb no less than for a kid.
Why then, did Chazal fix the smaller Shiur of a kid's mouthful, and not
the larger Shiur of a lamb's?

2)
(a) The Shiur for carrying out fresh Garlic and onion-leaves is a
ki'G'rogeres, and of dry ones, enough to fill a kid-goat's mouth (a
smaller Shiur).   Why is that?
(b) Will the two half-Shi'urim of two species that someone carries out
combine to render the person who is carrying them, Chayav?

3)
(a) When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he quoted Rebbi Yochanan
as saying that someone who carries out the Shiur of a cow's mouthful of
straw to feed a camel, will be Chayav.   What does Resh Lakish say?
(b) In the morning, he added, Rebbi Yochanan retracted.   On what
grounds does ...
1. ... Rav Yosef condone Rebbi Yochanan's retraction?
2. ... Abaye disagree with this?
(c) Abaye therefore condones Ravin's version of the story (that in the
previous case, even Resh Lakish will agree that he is Chayav). According
to Ravin, Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish argue in a case where one
carries out a cow's mouthful of straw of legumes to feed a cow, and Resh
Lakish is the one to say Chayav, and Rebbi Yochanan, Patur.   What is
then the basis of their dispute?
(d) How do we reconcile our Mishnah, which gives the Shiur for stubble
as enough to fill the mouth of a lamb, with the Beraisa, which gives the
Shiur of  a ki'G'rogeres?

4)
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that half a Shiur of one kind together
with half a Shiur of another kind do not combine to make a whole Shiur.
How does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina qualify this ruling?
(b) What does the Tana of the Mishnah in Keilim mean when it writes
'ha'Beged Sheloshah al Sheloshah'?
(c) What is the minimum Shiur Tum'ah for sack-cloth, for hide and for a
reed-mat respectively? (Note: the Shiurim for the latter two are the
same regarding Tum'as Maga and Tum'as Medras).
(d) Do the different Shiurim combine to receive Tum'ah?

5)
(a) What Kashya does the Mishnah in Keilim now pose on Rebbi Yossi
b'Rebbi Chanina (who maintains that the various animal foods combine to
make-up the larger Shiur)?
(b) How does Rava resolve this Kashya?

76b----------------76b

6)
(a) Will different foods combine to make up the Shiur of a ki'G'rogeres
regarding carrying on Shabbos?
(b) Do the disposable parts of fruit, such as the peels and the pits,
the stalks, the husks and the bran, combine with the fruit to make up
the Shiur?
(c) What is ...
1. ... Subin?
2. ... Mursan?
(d) What does Rebbi Yehudah say about lentil-shells?

7)
(a) Why is it that, although the husks and the bran do combine to make
up the Shiur Chalah, they do not combine to make up the Shiur to be
Chayav for carrying on Shabbos?
(b) In our Mishnah, Rebbi Yehudah includes only lentil-shells in the
Shiur.     How do we account for the fact that in a Beraisa, he also
includes bean-shells?
(c) Why does Rebbi Yehudah concede to the Chachamim by old bean-shells?

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8)
(a) What Shiur does our Mishnah give for carrying ... 
1. ... milk?
2. ... honey?
3. ... oil?
4. ... water?
(b) What is the Shiur for all other liquids, including sewage water?
(c) How much is a Revi'is ha'Lug?

9)
(a) What does Rebbi Shimon say about the Shiur of all liquids?
(b) And what does he say about all the Shiurim listed by the Tana Kama?
Does he discard them completely?

10)
(a) The Tana gives the Shiur for undiluted wine as K'dei Mezigas Kos
Yafeh.   What is a 'Kos Yafeh'?
(b) How much wine must the cup contain, to be Chayav for carrying on
Shabbos? Why is that? 



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         DAFYOMI REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI

                 by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
              Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
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Shabbos 77

1)
(a) What does Rava prove from the combination of our Mishnah, which
writes 'ha'Motzi Yayin, K'dei Mezigas Kos', the Beraisa (which adds)
'K'dei Mezigas Kos Yafeh', and the Seifa 'u'She'ar Kol ha'Mashkin,
bi'Revi'is? On which statement of Rava himself is this based?
(b) How do we know that the Rova Revi'is in our Sugya does not mean a
quarter of a Lug, which will become a complete Lug once the water has
been added?
(c) What does Abaye ask on Rava from the Mishnah in Nidah which, in
describing 'Mazug' (one of the appearances of Dam Nidah), writes
've'ha'Mazug Sh'nei Chelkei Mayim, ve'Echad Yayin, min ha'Yayin
ha'Sheroni'?
(d) He also asks 'Mayim be'Kad, u'Mitztarfin'?   What does he mean by
that?
(e) How does Abaye therefore explain 'K'dei Mezigas Kos'?

2)
(a) Rava counters by pointing out that the Mishnah in Nidah specifically
mentions Yayin ha'Sheroni. Perhaps ordinary wine is different.   How
else does Rava reject Abaye's first Kashya?
(b) And how does he reject Abaye's second Kashya ('Mayim be'Kad,
u'Mitztarfin')?

3)
(a) How much congealed wine will one have to carry out on Shabbos in
order to be Chayav - according to Rebbi Nasan in a Beraisa?
(b) In another Beraisa, Beis Shamai' declares Dam Neveilah,  Tahor. This
might mean that it is not Metamei at all.   What else might it mean?
(c) According to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah, even Beis Hillel only
render Dam Neveilah Tamei, when it comprises a Revi'is.   Why is that?
(d) Rav Yosef equates Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah with Rebbi Nasan in
the previous case (of congealed wine).   On what grounds does Abaye
refute Rav Yosef's equation? Why might ...
1. ... Rebbi Nasan not agree with Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah?
2. ... Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Yehudah not agree with Rebbi Nasan?

4)
What do we prove (spelling wise) from the Pasuk ...
1. ... in Chayei Sarah "Hagmi'ini Na Me'at Mayim mi'Kadech''?
2. ... in Bechukosai "ve'Nigra me'Erkecha"?
3. ... in Yechezkel "Arazim Lo Omemuhu"?
4. ... in Yeshayah "ve'Otzem Einav me'Re'os be'Ra"?

77b----------------77b

5)
(a) We learned in a Beraisa that the Shi'ur for carrying out an animal's
milk is enough for one gulp, and for carrying out a Kilur (a salve for
the eyes), the amount that is required to rub into water, to salve both
eyes.   What Shi'ur does the Tana give for ...
1. ... a woman's milk?
2. ... the white of an egg?
(b) The Shiur for honey is sufficient to place on a wound.   What is Rav
Ashi's dilemma as to its application?
(c) What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

6)
(a) What statement did Rav Yehudah make regarding all of Hashem's
creations?
(b) Why did He then create ...
1. ... the snail?
2. ... the fly?
3. ... the gnat?
4. ... the snake?
5. ... the spider?
(c) A lion is afraid of the mosquito, and the elephant of the gnat.
What are the following afraid of:
1. A scorpion?
2. An eagle?
3. The Livyasan? 
(d) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Amos "ha'Mavlig Shod Al Az"?

7)
(a) Rav Yehudah told Rebbi Zeira some fascinating facts.   Why ...
1. ... do the goats go at the head of the flock?
2. ... are the private parts of a sheep covered by a fat-tail, whereas
those of a goat are not?
3. ... is a camel's tail short, and a cow's long?
4. ... are the antenna of a grasshopper (or of an ant) are soft?
(b) What is unique about the biological make-up of a chicken?

8)
(a) What is the acronym of ... 
1. ... 'Dasha' (a gate)?
2. ... 'Darga' (a ladder)?
3. ... 'Maskulisa' (sharp condiments)?
4. ... 'Beisa' (a house)?
5. ... 'Biksa' (a tiny house)?
(b) What is ...
1. ... 'Kufsa' (a large block of wood that is used for yeast) the
acronym of?
2. ... 'Livni' (bricks) the acronym of?
3. ... 'Hutza' (a reed fence) the acronym of?
4. ... 'Chatzva' (a small barrel) the acronym of?
5. ... 'Kuza' (a small earthenware jar) the acronym of?
(c) Why is ...
1. ... a myrtle-twig called 'Shutisa'?
2. ... a large water-bowl called 'Mashichla'?
3. ... a small pretty water-bowl called a 'Mashchilta'?
4. ... a mortar called 'Asisa'?
5. ... a pestle called a 'Buchna'?
(d) And what is ...
1. ... 'Levusha' (a top garment) the acronym of?
2. ... 'Gelima' (a plain over-coat)  the acronym of?
3. ... 'Gulsa' (a smart coat) the acronym of?
4. ... 'Purya' (a bed) the acronym of?
5. ... 'Bor Zinka' (a dried out water-pit) the acronym of?
(e) Why is ...
1. ... the head-scarf worn by Talmidei-Chachamim called 'Sudra'?
2. ... the royal palace called 'Apadna'?

9)
(a) The Tana of the Beraisa lists three creatures that become stronger
as they grow older. Two of them are a fish and a snake.   What is the
third?
(b) The Shiur for carrying oil is enough to anoint a small limb.   How
do de'Bei Rebbi Yanai interpret this statement?
(c) Why does the Beraisa, which says 'Shemen K'dei Lasuch Ever Katan
ve'Katan ben Yomo', appear to contradict the statement of de'Bei Rebbi
Yanai?
(d) How do we amend the Beraisa to reconcile the two?

10)
(a) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar and Rebbi Nasan argue in a Beraisa. The
former gives the Shiur of oil as 'Shemen K'dei Lasuch Eiver Katan
ve'Katan ben Yomo', whereas the latter says simply 'K'dei la'Such Eiver
Katan'. They may well argue over the statement of de'Bei Rebbi Yanai (in
the two ways of learning the previous Beraisa that we just cited), and
de'Bei Rebbi Yanai follows the opinion of Rebbi Nasan.   How else might
we interpret their Machlokes?
(b) How do we finally conclude, quoting Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar in
another Beraisa?



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         DAFYOMI REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI

                 by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
              Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
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Shabbos 78

1)
(a) Why did the Rabbanan give the Shiur of wine and milk as the amounts
that are Chashuv for drinking, rather than the smaller Shiur that goes
into the eye-cure for which they are sometimes used?
(b) And why did they give the Shiur of honey as the amount that is used
to cure the animals' sore back, rather than the amount that is usually
eaten?
(c) What problem does this leave us with, regarding the Shiur of 'Lashuf
Bahem es ha'Kilur' mentioned by the Tana?
(d) Abaye answers 'bi'Gelila Shanu'.   What does this mean?
(e) How does Rava resolve the problem, even as regards people who did
not live in the Galil?

2)
(a) The Tana Kama includes blood in the list of liquids whose Shiur is a
Revi'is. Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar and Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel each give
the Shiur as enough to paint the eye, the former for a Barkis, the
latter for a Ya'arod.   What is ...
1. ... a Barkis?
2. ... a Ya'arod?
(b) According to Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar, they the blood of a hen,
according to Rabban ben Gamliel, that of a bat.   What is the
significance of the Si'man 'Gav le'Gav, u'Bera le'Bera'?
(c) According to the Tana Kama, all of the above Shiurim pertain to
someone who carries one of the listed commodities into the street
without prior designation; whereas according to Rebbi Shimon, they
pertain to someone who first designated them and then stored them away
(elevating their status). What will ...
1. ... the Tana Kama hold with regard to those commodities if they were
first stored away?
2. ... Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar hold with regard to someone who carried
out those same commodities after storing them away without first
designating them?
(d) What does the Tana mean when he says that the Chachamim will agree
with Rebbi Shimon with regard to carrying sewage-water into the street?

3)
(a) What is the problem with the statement in the Beraisa 'Bameh Devarim
Amurim, be'Motzi, Aval be'Matzni'a, Kol Dehu'?
(b) We answer that the Beraisa is speaking about  'Talmid she'Amar Lo
Rabo, Lech u'Paneh Li ha'Makom li'Se'udah ... '. The Talmid referred to
by the Gemara is an apprentice.   What does the Beraisa then mean?
(c) Why must the author of the Beraisa then be Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar?

4)
(a) Our Mishnah gives the Shiur for carrying out Shofchin as a Revi'is.
What use do Shofchin have?
(b) How do we reconcile this with the fact that the Beraisa gives the
Shiur for clay or cement as the amount that one would use to punch a
hole for the bellows to fan the fire in  a furnace (which is a much
smaller Shiur)?

5)
(a) What is the smallest Shiur for carrying out on Shabbos ...
1. ... a cord?
2. ... a reed? (according to the Tana Kama)?
3. ... unused paper (made of grass)?
4. ... paper that has been written on?
(b) Is one Chayav for carrying out a toll-chief's receipt?
(c) What was normally written on such a receipt?
(d) What is the minimum Shiur of hide for which one would be Chayav for
carrying out on Shabbos?

78b--------------78b

6)
(a) What is K'laf, and what is the minimum Shiur regarding carrying on
Shabbos?
(b) Why is one not Chayav for the smaller Shiur of 'Kesher Muchsin' -
like  paper?
(c) What is the minimum Shiur for  ...
1. ... ink?
2. ... eye-paint?
3. ... glue?
4. ... pitch and sulfur?
5. ... wax?
6. ... fine bran?
(d) According to the Tana Kama, the Shiur for ground brick is to punch a
hole in it for a goldsmith's furnace.     What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

7)
(a) Why is the Shiur of a cord the amount that one can make from it a
handle for a box, and not as a hook, to hang up a sieve - which is a
smaller Shiur?
(b) What is the Shiur of ...
1. ... the long and thin foliage of a palm-branch?
2. ... the fiber that grows around the palm-tree?
3. ... fat?
(c) How do we reconcile the Beraisa which gives the Shiur of fat as the
size of a Sela-coin, with the Beraisa which gives it as a ki'Gerogeres?
(d) What is the Shiur of a wad of cotton-wool (or of a similar soft
substance)?

8)
(a) The Tana gave the Shiur of the toll-collector's receipt as two large
letters.     Does this also require a margin surrounding it?
(b) Rav Sheishes explains that the Beraisa, which gives the Shiur of
plain paper as 'large enough to write on it two letters', means two
*large* letters, the size that one writes on the receipt.     How will
Rava, who explains that the Beraisa means two ordinary-size letters,
resolve the Beraisa with the Shiur of 'Kesher Muchsin', given by our
Mishnah?
(c) What is the Kashya on Rava from the Beraisa, which writes that
'ha'Motzi Neyar Machuk ... Im Yesh be'Loven Shelo, K'dei Lichtov Sh'tei
Osi'yos ... Chayav'?
(d) What will be the Shiur of paper which has no blank space on it, and
which has no further use?

9)
(a) What does the Tana Kama say about carrying a receipt that he has
already shown to the toll-collector?
(b) Rebbi Yehudah maintains that he is still Chayav. According to Abaye,
this is on account of  the 'Rehitei, Muchsin'; according to Rava,
because of 'Moches Gadol u'Moches Katan', and according to Rav Ashi,
'Chad Moches Ika Benaihu'.    What is the meaning of  ...
1. ... 'Rehitei Muchsin'?
2. ... 'Moches Gadol u'Moches Katan'?
3. ... 'Chad Moches Ika Benaihu'?

10)
(a) Someone who carries an unpaid document in the street, says the
Beraisa, is Chayav. If it is paid, the Tana Kama declares him Patur.
Rav Yosef's explanation of the Tana Kama's opinion is based on the Pasuk
in Iyov "Al Tashken be'Ohalecha Avlah".    What do we learn from there? 
(b) How does this now explain the Tana Kama's opinion?
(c) What is Rebbi Yehudah's opinion regarding carrying out a paid
document, and how does he deal with the Pasuk in Iyov?
(d) Will the borrower be Chayav for carrying out the document, according
to him?

11)
(a) Abaye maintains that both forbid retaining a paid document, and
their Machlokes is the same as the existing Machlokes whether 'Modeh
bi'Shetar she'Kasvo Tzarich Lekaymo' or not.   What does this mean?
(b) What does each Tana now hold?
(c) How will we interpret 'ad she'Lo Par'o' and 'mi'she'Par'o',
according to this explanation?
(d) According to an alternative version Rav Ashi explains that the Tana
Kama rules Patur because he holds 'Ein Kosvin Shover and the creditor is
Patur because he either return the Sh'tar to the debtor or burns it.
Why does Rebbi Yehudah, who holds 'Kosvin Shover', then declare him
Chayav?
(e) On what grounds do we reject this version, besides the fact that
Rebbi Yehudah specifically holds 'Ein Kosvin Shover'?

12)
(a) According to Rava, everyone holds ' ... 'Tzarich Lekaymo', and they
are arguing there where the debtor actually paid. And the basis of their
Machlokes is whether 'Kosvin Shover' (one writes a receipt) or not.
Why should one not?
(b) What is Rebbi Yehudah's opinion regarding writing a receipt, and why
should one therefore be Chayav for carrying out the document?
(c) What does Rebbi Meir then hold?
(d) According to an alternative version of Rava's explanation, the Tana
Kama rules Patur because he holds 'Ein Kosvin Shover', and the creditor
is Patur because he either returns the Sh'tar to the debtor or burns it.
Why does Rebbi Yehudah, who holds 'Kosvin Shover', then declare him
Chayav?
(e) On what grounds do we reject this version, besides the fact that
Rebbi Yehudah specifically holds 'Ein Kosvin Shover'?

13)
According to Rav Ashi, the Machlokes concerns the borrower carrying the
Sh'tar (not the creditor).   On what grounds does ...
1. ... Rebbi Yehudah declare him Chayav?
2. ... the Tana Kama disagree with Rebbi Yehudah (and the other Amora'im
with Rav Ashi, even according to Rebbi Yehudah)?



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         DAFYOMI REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI

                 by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
              Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
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Shabbos 79

1)
(a) If the size hide that one will be Chayav on Shabbos for tanning is
one  that is large enough to write a Kamei'a on it, then what will be
the Shi'ur for which one will be Chayav for carrying?
(b) What did Rav Nachman reply when Rava asked him what the Shi'ur will
be for carrying un-tanned hide?
(c) How did he extrapolate his answer from the Shiur of weaving and
spinning threads on Shabbos?
(d) What is the Shiur for carrying a piece of hide that is not meant to
be used for tanning?

2)
(a) The Shiur for carrying soaked dye is the amount that one would
designate as a sample, and for un-sown seeds, a little less than a
ki'G'rogeres according to the Tana Kama.   What does Rebbi Yehudah ben
Beseira say?
(b) The Shi'ur for carrying sewage-water is a Revi'is, and for dyes to
be soaked dyes to be soaked, the amount that one would use to dye a
piece of cloth that one places inside a woman's head-covering (which is
a larger Shiur than that of soaked dye).   What is the Shi'ur for
carrying ...
1. ... manure or fine sand, to fertilize seeds that have been sown,
according to Rebbi Akiva (according to the Rabbanan it is sufficient to
fertilize a leek)?
2. ... clay (mixed with sewage-water)?
(c) How will we explain the apparent discrepancy between the two
different Shiurim in all of these cases on the one hand, and the Shiurim
of tanned and un-tanned hide (which have the same Shiur), on the other?
(d) And how will we reconcile Rav Nachman with the Beraisa, which gives
a larger Shiur for untreated hide as piece large enough to cover a small
weight?
(e) How do we then account for the Mishnah in Keilim, which gives the
Shiur of Tum'ah for leather as five Tefachim by five Tefachim, and to
which the Beraisa ascribes the equivalent Shiur for carrying on Shabbos?

3)
We have just discussed the Shiur of untreated hide, known as 'Matzah'.
There are two more categories of leather:  'Cheifah', which has been
salted, and 'Dift'ra', which has also had flour added to it, but not
'Afeitzim' - gall-nuts (when it becomes Klaf).   What is the Shiur for
carrying ...
1. ... Cheifah?
2. ... Dift'ra?

79b-----------------79b

4)
(a) Parchment manufactured from a complete hide is called 'G'vil'.
What are 'Klaf' and 'Duchsustus'?
(b) The Beraisa writes 'Klaf ve'Duchsustus, K'dei Lichtov Alav Mezuzah'.
What does this mean in practical terms, if taken literally?
(c) How does this statement clash with the Shiur given by the Tana in
our Mishnah?
(d) What do we mean when we initially answer 'Mai Mezuzah, Mezuzah
she'bi'Tefilin'?

5)
(a) The Tana Kama of the Beraisa renders a person Tamei if he touches
the Ketzitzah (the box) of the Tefilin or even the straps, provided they
are attached to the Ketzitzah.   What does Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah
quote Rebbi Shimon as saying, regarding the straps?
(b) Rebbi Zakai quotes Rebbi Shimon as saying 'Tahor Ad she'Yiga
bi'Mezuzah Atzmah'.   What does 'Mezuzah' mean in this context? What do
we prove with this?
(c) We just answered the current Kashya (the clash between the Beraisa,
which says 'Klaf ve'Duchsustus, K'dei Lichtov Alav Mezuzah' and our
Mishnah), by explaining 'Mezuzah' in the Beraisa to mean 'Mezuzah
she'bi'Tefilin.   On what grounds do we refute this explanation?
(d) How do we amend the Beraisa, and answer the Kashya - at one and the
same time?

6)
(a) How do we initially understand Rav's statement 'Duchsustus, Harei Hu
ki'Klaf'?
(b) How do we query Rav from our Mishnah 'Klaf K'dei Lichtov ... Parshah
Ketanah she'bi'Tefilin, she'Hi Sh'ma Yisrael'?
(c) How do we answer this Kashya?

7)
(a) On which part of the Klaf does one write Tefilin, and on which part
of the Duchsustus, Mezuzos ('Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai')?
(b) We just learned that Tefilin are Kasher if they are written on
Duchsustus.   What about writing Mezuzos on Klaf?
(c) In that case, how will we explain the Beraisa 'Shinah ba'Zeh
u'va'Zeh, Pasul'?
(d) Alternatively, 'Shinah ba'Zeh u'va'Zeh' is a Machlokes Tana'im in a
Beraisa, and Rav will hold like Rebbi Acha in a Beraisa.   What does
Rebbi Acha say?

8)
(a) Alternatively, Rav Papa suggests that Rav holds like Tana de'Bei
Menasheh, who says 'Kasvah Al ha'G'vil ve'Al ha'Klaf ve'Al
ha'Duchsustus, Kesheirah'.   What leads us to believe that Tana de'Bei
Menasheh is speaking about Tefilin and not Mezuzah?
(b) On what grounds do we reject this suggestion?
(c) So what must Tana de'Bei Menasheh be referring to?

9)
(a) How do we attempt to prove Rav's opinion (that Tefilin that are
written on Duchsustus are Kasher) from the Beraisa 'Tefilin she'Balu ...
Ein Osin Meihen Mezuzah, L'fi she'Ein Moridin ... '?
(b) We refute this proof too however, by establishing the Beraisa like
Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar.   What does Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar quoting
Rebbi Meir say about writing a Mezuzah on Klaf.
(c) Why is that?

10)
(a) In light of what we just explained, how do we now amend Rav's
statement 'Duchsustus, Harei Hu ki'Klaf? 
(b) What is he coming to teach us?
(c) What does he now hold with regard to writing Tefilin on Duchsustus?



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         DAFYOMI REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI

                 by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
              Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
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Shabbos 80

1)
(a) The Beraisa gives the Shi'ur for carrying wet ink which is already
on the tip of a pen on Shabbos, as sufficient ink to write two letters
of the alphabet.   What is the Shi'ur for carrying dry ink, or ink which
is still in the ink-well?
(b) Rava asks whether one will be Chayav for carrying enough to write
one letter of each simultaneously.   What is the answer?

2)
(a) Rava declares someone who writes two letters whilst he is walking,
Chayav.   What is he coming to teach us? Why might we have thought that
he is not?
(b) He also rules that if he carries out sufficient ink to write one
letter, writes the first one on paper, and then fetches ink for the
second letter, which he then to write beside the first one, he will be
Patur.   Why is that?
(c) And what does Rava say about someone who carries out a
half-ki'G'rogeres of food, puts it down, and then goes and carries
another half-ki'G'rogeres and places it beside the first one?
(d) The problem with this ruling is obvious.   How do we establish the
case in order to resolve it?

3)
(a) Rava, the author of all the current statements, says with regard to
the previous case, that if, instead of placing the second
half-ki'G'rogeres beside the first, he passes it over the top of it, he
is Chayav.   How will he explain the fact that he did not make a
Hanachah with the second half-G'rogeres?
(b) How do we reconcile this statement with another statement of Rava,
where he said that, according to the Rabbanan, even an article which
passes within three Tefachim of the ground, requires a Hanachah on
something (though it does require an area that is three by three
Tefachim)?
(c) The Beraisa states 'Hotzi Chatzi G'rogeres, ve'Chazar ve'Hotzi
Chatzi G'rogeres, be'He'elam Echad, Chayav ... Rebbi Yossi Omer,
be'He'elam Echad li'Reshus Echad, Chayav, li'Sh'tei Reshuyos, Patur'.
According to Rabah, Rebbi Yossi holds that someone who carries out two
half-Shiurim to two Reshuyos, is Patur, only if the Reshus ha'Yachid
divides between the two Reshuyos (ha'Rabim); according to Abaye, even a
Karmelis will suffice.   What does Rava hold?
(d) What does Rava mean when he says 'Reshus Shabbos ki'Reshus Gitin
Damya'? What is the case by Gitin?

4)
(a) Considering that most women paint both eyes, why is one Chayav for
carrying out enough eye-paint to paint one?
(b) How do we then account for the statement of Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar,
who says that it is only if one carries out eye-paint to use as a cure,
that one is Chayav for carrying enough for one eye, but if it is to use
as a cosmetic, one is only Chayav for carrying out enough to paint two
eyes?

5)
(a) What is the Shiur for carrying out glue? What purpose did the glue
serve?
(b) According to the text in our Mishnah, a Shiur for a broken piece of
earthenware according to the Tana Kama is one that is large enough to
make a hole in and cover the opening of a goldsmith's furnace.   What
does Rebbi Yehudah say?
(c) Why is the Machlokes between the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yehudah
inconsistent with their Machlokes in the previous Mishnah regarding a
reed?
(d) How do we amend the opinion of Rebbi Yehudah in the current
Machlokes, to conform with the previous Machlokes?

80b-----------------------------80b

6)
What is the Shiur for carrying out ...
1. ... hair on Shabbos?
2. ... cement?

7)
(a) What does the Beraisa give as the minimum Shiur for carrying out
lime on Shabbos?
(b) According to Rav Yehudah Amar Rav, that is what poor people tended
to use for removing premature hair from their little daughters' bodies.
What did wealthy people use?
(c) According to Rav Huna bar Chiya, kings used to use Sateches
(myrrh-oil).   What does Rebbi Yirmiyah bar Aba say they used?
(d) Why did a certain Nochri accuse Rav Bibi of killing his daughter?
What was his mistake?
(e) Rav Nachman claimed that Rav Bibi's daughter required the removal of
premature hair, but his daughter did not.   Why was that?

8)
(a) According to Rebbi Yehudah, the Shiur for carrying out lime is
'Kilkul', which Rav interprets as a temple-pack that a woman smears on
her temples to keep her hair flat, whereas according to Rebbi Nechemyah,
it is 'Undifi'.   How does Rav initially interpret 'Undifi'?
(b) What do we mean when we say that according to Rav, Rebbi Yehudah's
Shiur is both larger and smaller?
(c) We retract from this translation on the basis of a Beraisa, where
Rebbi defines Kilkul as 'Chavut', and Andifi as 'Bitzas ha'Sid'.   What
does this mean?
(d) How does this clash with Rav's initial interpretation of Andifi?
(e) So Rebbi Yitzchak citing bei Rebbi Ami, interprets Undifi as
'Andifa' an earthenware wine-container with two spouts, one on top (to
pour in the wine) and one, below (from which to pour out). When filling
it, one blocks the lower hole - with a tiny plaster egg (According to
this explanation, Rebbi Yehudah's Shiur is even smaller than Rebbi
Nechemyah's).   On what grounds does Rav Kahana reject this explanation,
too?

9)
(a) Rav Kahana finally interprets Undifi as Shenasos or Andifa Apusa.
What is ...
1. ... Shenasos?
2. ... Andifa Apusa?
(b) When a certain Galilean died from a hornet sting, why did they say
that it served him right?
(c) Why do we cite this incident?

10)
(a) According to Rebbi Akiva in our Mishnah, the Shi'ur for carrying out
red clay on Shabbos, is enough to seal a large commercial sack, and for
manure and fine sand, enough to fertilize one cabbage-stalk.   What
Shiur do the Rabbanan give ...
1. ... for red clay?
2. ... for manure and fine sand?
(b) What is the Shiur for ...
1. ... thick sand?
2. ... a thin cane?
3. ... a thick or split cane with jagged edges)?
(c) What causes us to think initially that the author of our Mishnah,
which gives the Shiur for thick sand as a spoonful of lime, must be
Rebbi Yehudah?
(d) We conclude that the author might well be the Rabbanan, and 'Kilkulo
Zehu Tikuno'.   What does this mean?
really be the Chachamim, because 'Kilkulo Zehu Tikuno'.   What does this
mean?

11)
(a) The Beraisa gives the Shiur for a fine cane as sufficient to be able
to fashion with it a quill that will reach the joints of his fingers.
This might mean that it reaches the middle joint of the hand (where the
finger meets the hand).   What else might it mean?
(b) Our Mishnah gave the Shiur for thick sand as sufficient to cook a
Beitzah Kalah ... Terufah u'Nesunah be'Ilfas'.    What does the
statement mean? With what is the egg mixed?

12)
(a) Why did Mar Brei de'Ravina's son think that the 'Beitzah Kalah' must
be referring to the egg of a bird called 'Tziltz'la'? What is a
'Tziltz'la'?
(b) In which point does Mar Brei de'Revina disagrees with his son on
this point?
(c) So how does he explain 'Beitzah Kalah'?
(d) And how do we finally reconcile this Shi'ur with the regular Shi'ur
to do with food of a ki'Gerogeres?

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