Must seudah sh値ishis be eaten after mincha?
This question was
pertinent this year when erev Pesach was on Shabbos and
eating bread was only permitted in the morning. The usual
seudah sh値ishis with bread was
not possible after mincha. Likewise, one who prefers
to eat seudah sh値ishis at home
and go to shul to learn for the remainder of the day?
The Tur writes
that the time for seudah sh値ishis
is not before mincha gedola, which is 6.5 hours into the day.
The Beis
Yosef writes that this view is shared by many Rishonim
although there are those who say that seudah sh値ishis may be
eaten in the morning.
This does not mean that one must actually daven
mincha beforehand, as we will soon see.
Therefore, splitting the morning seudah, i.e. bentching,
waiting a short while and washing for bread again, is not a viable solution, but this issue should be
dealt with before the next time erev Pesach falls on Shabbos,
which is five years.
Well, what about davening mincha
beforehand?
The Rambam
depicts (30:10) the schedule of tzaddikim on Shabbos: 徹ne
davens shacharis and mussaf in shul and
goes home to eat the second meal. One then goes back to shul
and learns until mincha. One then davens mincha and
eats seudah sh値ishis�.
The Tur understands that one must daven
mincha before seudah sh値ishis and so do other
Rishonim.
Rabeinu Tam however preferred that seudah sh値ishis be
eaten before mincha as he held that water may not be consumed
between mincha and ma誕riv for kabalistic reasons. The poskim explain that he was referring to river water only and
therefore the custom to first daven mincha prevails.
The Kaf Hachaim
cites many poskim who hold that one should preferably eat
seudah sh値ishis after mincha.
The Ari HaKadosh held the same. If it is difficult for
one to first daven mincha, one may first eat
seudah sh値ishis
and then daven mincha.
Must one eat bread at seudah
sh値ishis?
We mentioned in the
past that optimally one must wash and eat bread for
seudah sh値ishis.
When one is satiated to the point that he will not enjoy the meal
one may eat other foods, preferably from the five grains.
Should the challos be covered at
seudah sh値ishis as well?
We should first
understand why the challos need be covered and then discuss
seudah sh値ishis.
The Tur
cites two reasons for covering the challos.
The first is a Yerushalmi that says that challos
should not be embarrassed during kiddush. One usually recites
hamotzi before hagefen being that wheat - chitah
is mentioned in the possuk �eretz chitah us弛rah
gefen�� before the gefen. It is only when the
kiddush is recited over wine that the boreh p池i hagefen
is recited before the hamotzi and since the b池acha is
out of order the challos must be covered.
The second is to imitate the manna, which was covered beneath
and above with dew. We therefore place a cloth beneath (the table
cloth) and above the challos.
The nafka mina
(difference) between the two reasons is when the b池acha of
wine is not recited prior to hamotzi, that is when kiddush
is not recited. Since we are not accustomed to make kiddush
at seudah sh値ishis, only the
reason of the manna applies and not the reason of wine.
Consequently one l団hatchila should cover the
challos at seudah sh値ishis as well,
but apparently custom is not so.
How long after sunset may one begin eating
seudah sh値ishis, if at all?
Preferably one must
commence eating before sunset.
Rav Sternbuch shlita relates that the Chazon Ish would
not permit household members to wash after sunset and yet the
Brisker Rav permitted washing up to 10 minutes after sunset.
One should
definitely try to wash beforehand for various reasons. One is
because it is a mitzvah to eat the three Shabbos meals during the
actual Shabbos day, based on the possuk "ichluhu hayom" -
three meals must be eaten on this day.