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Prepared by Rabbi N. Slifkin
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Nedarim 9
1) MISHNAH: NEDARIM OF WICKED AND RIGHTEOUS
(a) If a person made a Neder "as the Nedarim of the wicked," it is
valid to obligate him as a Nazir, to obligate him for a Korban,
or as a Shevuah.
2) EXPLAINING THE MISHNAH
(b) If a person made a Neder "as the Nedarim of the righteous," it is
(c) If a person made a Neder "as the Nedavos of the righteous," it is
valid to obligate him as a Nazir and to obligate him for a
(a) Question: Maybe he meant that he is NOT doing like the Nedarim of
3) NEDARIM AND NEDAVOS OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE
(b) Answer (Shmuel): It refers to a case where he said, "As the
Nedarim of the wicked, I accept upon me, and from it." "I accept"
refers to Nezirus, "upon me" refers to Korban, and "from it"
refers to Shevuah.
(c) Question: Maybe "I accept" means a fast?
(d) Answer: It refers to where a Nazir was passing in front of him.
(e) Question: Maybe "from it" means that he will eat it?
(f) Answer: It refers to where he said "from it, that I shall not eat
(g) Question: If so, what is the Chiddush?
(h) Answer: That it works even though he did not use a Shevuah
(a) Question: According to which Tanna is there a difference between
Neder and Nedavah? It can't be R. Meir or R. Yehudah:
1. (Beraisa) (R. Meir) Better than fulfilling a Neder is not to
take it in the first place.
2. (R. Yehudah) Better than not taking a Neder or not
fulfilling it is to take it and fulfill it.
(b) Answer: R. Meir only meant that one should never take a Neder,
not a Nedavah.
4) NEDAVOS OF THE RIGHTEOUS
1. Question: But the Mishnah said that it is a Neder?
2. Answer: Emend it to read that it is a Nedavah.
(a) Question: Just as one should not take a Neder in case one breaks
it, so too with Nedavah there is a risk of failing to bring it?
5) NEZIRUS OF THE RIGHTEOUS
(b) Answer: There is no risk if one follows Hillel's practice:
1. Under Hillel, nobody ever desecrated a Korban, as they would
bring it to the Beis HaMikdash while it was Chullin, and
then consecrate it and slaugher it.
(a) Question: That works for Nedavos of Korbanos, but what about
those of Nezirus?
(b) Answer: Nezirus is also praiseworthy in cases such as that
described by Shimon HaTzaddik;
1. Shimon HaTzaddik never ate the Asham of a Nazir, except in
the following case;
(c) Question: If one is refraining from eating the Asham of a Nazir
because it is brought due to his sin (of becoming Tamei), one
should also not eat any Asham, as it is always brought on account
of a sin!?
2. A handsome shepherd once looked at his reflection, and
risked being overwhelmed by pride; he therefore resolved to
become a Nazir.
3. Shimon HaTzaddik praised such Nezirus and said it followed
the verse's description of it being for the sake of Hashem.
(d) Answer: People accept Nezirus in a fit of conscience, but when
they become Tamei and have to start again, they regret having
accepted it in the first place, which makes their Korban almost
1. Question: If so, one should not even eat the Korban of a
Nazir who remained tahor?
2. Answer: A Nazir Tahor correctly gauged his ability to
fulfill the Nezirus properly.