POINT BY POINT SUMMARY
Prepared by Rabbi N. Slifkin
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Nedarim 10
1) NEDARIM AND NEDAVOS OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE
(a) Alternate explanation: The Mishnah can even be following R.
Yehudah; he only meant that a Nedavah which is fulfilled is
preferable, but not a Neder.
2) MISHNAH: EXAMPLES OF KINUYIM
1. Question: Surely he said that most preferable is one who
makes a Neder and fulfills it?
(b) Question: Just as one should not take a Neder in case one breaks
it, so too with Nedavah there is a risk of failing to bring it?
2. Answer: Emend it to read "Nedavah."
(c) Answer: R. Yehudah holds that one can bring an animal to the Beis
HaMikdash and consecrate it and slaughter it there.
(d) Question: That works for Nedavos of Korbanos, but what about
those of Nezirus?
(e) Answer: R. Yehudah is following his view in a Beraisa:
1. (R. Yehudah) The first Chassidim wanted an excuse to bring a
Chatas, so they would take on Nezirus.
(f) (Abayey) Shimon HaTzaddik, R. Shimon, and R. Elazar Hakapar all
agreed that a Nazir is a sinner;
2. (R. Shimon) They did not do so, as unlike other Korbanos
which can be freely brought as a Nedavah, one who becomes a
Nazir is called a sinner.
1. The first two as stated above;
(g) The Torah states the term "sinner" regarding Nazir as he has both
deprived himself and has sinned by becoming Tamei.
2. The latter as he deduced from the Pasuk that he is called a
sinner for denying himself wine.
3. Kal V'chomer one who denies himself all food is a sinner;
thus anyone who fasts is a sinner.
(a) Konam, Konach, Konas are Kinuyim for a Korban.
3) THE ORIGINS OF KINNUYIM
(b) Cherek, Cherech, Cheref are Kinuyim for a Cherem.
(c) Nazik, Nazich, Pazich are Kinuyim for Nezirus.
(d) Shevusah, Shekukah, or vowing by Mohi are Kinuyim for Shevuah.
(a) (Beraisa) There is a dispute regarding Kinuyim:
(b) (R. Yochanan) They are from non-Jewish languages.
(c) (Resh Lakish) They are special terms devised by the Chachamim
such that people wouldn't use the word Korban.
1. Question: What is wrong with saying Korban?
2. Answer: He might come to say "a Korban to Hashem."
3. Question: What's wrong with saying that?
4. Answer: He may only say "to Hashem" without "Korban," and
thus be saying it in vain, as per a Beraisa:
4) EXAMPLES OF KINUY KINUYIM
(d) Suggestion: Let us say that the dispute regarding Kinuyim relates
to a dispute between Tannaim:
i. (R. Shimon) We know that one shouldn't say "for Hashem,
a Korban" as the Pasuk says that the word "Korban"
ii. If the Torah is so careful even in a case where he
saying Hashem's Name with regard to a Korban, how much
more severe it must be to say it in vain.
1. (Beis Shammai) Kinuyim of Kinuyim are binding.
(e) Rejection: It could be that all hold that Kinuyim are non-Jewish
languages, and the dispute is as to whether these words are also
2. (Beis Hillel) They are not binding.
3. Surely Beis Shammai holds they are binding because Kinuyim
are different languages, and the new Kinuyim are simply
another language; whereas Beis Hillel hold that they are
devised terms, and the new Kinuyim are not devised!?
(f) Alternate explanation: The dispute could be as to whether we make
a decree on Kinuy Kinuyim.
(a) Examples with Nedarim: Mekanmena, Mekanchana, Mekansana.
5) VOWING BY MOHI
(b) Examples with Cherem: Charakim, Charachim, Charafim.
(c) Examples with Nezirus: Mechazkana, Menazchana, Mafichna.
1. Question: What about Mifchazna, Mischazna, and Misazna?
(d) Examples of Kinuy Kinuyim with Shevuah: Shevuel, Shevusiel,
2. Question: Is Kinma a term of Konam or of the spice Kinamon?
3. Question: Is Kinah a term of Konam or of a bird's nest?
4. These questions remain.
1. Question: Shevuel is the name of someone!?
(e) (Shmuel) Ashivta, Ashkika, and Krinsha are meaningless.
2. Answer: Read instead 'Shevuvel.'
(a) (Beraisa) If someone says "By Mohi" (a nickname for Moshe) it is
(b) If he vowed "by the Mumsa (Neder) of Mohi", it is a Kinuy for a