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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafPesachim 97
1) PESACH AND CHATAS
(a) [Shmuel] Any animal which, invalidated as a Chatas would be put
to death, is offered as a Shelamim if it were a Pesach, and if it
would be pastured by a Chatas, the same would apply to a Pesach.
(b) [R. Yochanan] A Pesach can only be offered as a Shelamim if it is
found after Shechitah.
(c) Question: We find that the pasturing law is *not* identical?!
1. A Chatas which passed its first year is put out to pasture.
(d) Answer: Shmuel was speaking of lost animals, not rejected ones.
2. A Pesach would be brought as a Shelamim (as in the Bereisa).
(e) Question: But the law of a lost animal does not follow the rule!
1. The cited Mishnah is a dispute between Rebbi and Chachamim
regarding a lost, replaced, and found Chatas.
(f) Answer: Shmuel holds like Rebbi that such a lost Chatas is
2. Rebbi holds that one is offered and the other dies.
3. Chachamim hold that a Chatas only dies if its owners were
already atoned for, such that this Korban is pastured.
4. The lost and found Pesach, however, is offered as a
(g) Question: But according to Rebbi *all* lost animals die, whereas
by Pesach it depends on whether it is lost and found before or
(h) Answer: Before Chatzos the Pesach is not considered lost (as
(i) Question: When will Rebbi ever have an animal put out to pasture?
(j) Answer: In the case of R. Oshiya (where the backup Chatas will be
put out to pasture).
(k) Question: But in the equivalent Pesach case, it would be brought
as a Shelamim!?
(l) Answer: Shmuel really holds like R. Shimon that the Chatas dies
under all circumstances, whenever it is found.
(m) Question: But according to R. Shimon there is never a case of the
animal being put out to pasture!
(n) Answer: Shmuel only meant to teach the first part, that when a
Chatas would die, the equivalent Pesach would be a Shelamim.
(o) Question: What, then, is the news of Shmuel?
(p) Answer: To disagree with R. Yochanan who holds that a Pesach
found before Shechitah is not brought as Shelamim (Shmuel holds
that Chatzos is the determinant).
(q) Alternate answer to Question (e) above: Shmuel holds like Rabah
(Shechitah is the determinant).
(r) Question: We can infer Shmuel's position (that Shechitah is *not*
the determinant) from R. Yochanan!?
1. R. Yochanan who argues with Shmuel holds that Shechitah is
(s) Answer: Shmuel holds like Rebbi (answer (f) above).
2. From which we can infer that Shmuel holds Chatzos
(t) Question: But according to Rebbi the Pesach would also die (yet
by Pesach if it was lost and found before Chatzos it would be a
(u) Answer: He holds that before Chatzos is not called lost, and
midday is the determinant.